Eddie vs. Baiken

[Teyah]

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[iloveu]

I have a lot of trouble against Baiken. Very patient and "run away" Baiken at that. I feel like I am almost useless do to her counters. I try to bait her counters out but I still have no such luck. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys.

[Guardian]

I have a lot of trouble against Baiken. Very patient and "run away" Baiken at that. I feel like I am almost useless do to her counters. I try to bait her counters out but I still have no such luck. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys.

If at anytime you have the shadow ready, do an unblockable on wakeup. They help alot here, as you don't have to worry about her counters.

If she does the anchor, sword, or run back counters during shadow pressure, it's pretty much a free combo for you, regardless of whether or not she hits the shadow (unless she frc/rcs the counter). A well timed 2HS can beat out her crossup counter, but I wouldn't recommend using it though because if she delays it you could be CH. Try baiting her counters or just plain fdc command grabs on wakeup. Alot of patient baikens are unpatient when in comes to counters, so meaty 5k~jump will cause her to think twice about counters. Meaty drills are also good counter bait because you have time to block any counter she does.

If she's turtling with tatami mats, use your HS drill to try and get her to block. Don't try to aa her with nobiru because air mats beat just about all of the shadow's pokes. Use 22D everynow and then to beat her air mats and CH her for dmg.

She's definitely a pain in the ass to fight, but no one is too hard for eddie. If you command grab her in the corner, with 25% tension, do this:

HS summon, -d-, 22d (unblockable), -s-, 214k~41236s, -HS, jump~float j.HS (2nd unblockable), 6P(2hits)x3, 5S, 2D (she should be dizzy no matter what), 22s before she wakes up, after 22s hits, 6p(2hits), jc j.k, j.hs, j.D, land sjc j.D

She dies. Yay eddie.

[Hellmonkey]

gatling into puddle during pressure = free punish on any counter

[tckof]

Lately my friend use baiken to fight me. Eddie do not have a reversal volcanic viper kinda attack, my friend abuse his 6k attack and everytime i try to reversal throw him, of course i get counter, if not i have to defend then he follow with 2hs, which let him keep the pressure. I try backstep but i still get hit.The only thing work is reversal overdrive, but it is too risky and spend 50% tension. any good advice?

[Teyah]

Moving into the match-ups thread.

You should be able to Slash Back the 3rd hit of the 2H if he keeps using that same string over and over. You can also IB the last hit of 2H and then FD jump away, backdash (usually not a good idea), or even try to poke if you think there's a big enough gap to sneak a 2P in. If you really want Baiken off you, you can safely DAA on reaction to seeing her 2H come out.

But honestly, there is nothing wrong with just blocking. A Baiken standing over you with minor frame advantage isn't much of a threat unless you're cornered or she has 50% meter for high/low mixup, so being patient and waiting for a gap pays off, especially since you don't want to have to be in close to Baiken without your Shadow out.

[tataki]

fdc command grabs

whats that?

[Teyah]

Run up on enemy wakeup as if you're going to do something, then FD to cut your running momentum short and remain out of normal grab range. Then use command grab just as their 9F of wakeup throw invulnerability expires.

[Hellmonkey]

You could just stop your run slightly short for the same effect without having to FD