pasteycracker Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Except for me. Please uphold the stigma that I am the biggest dick in the world. Because I am.
Romeyurhomey Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Shouldn't it be "You have the biggest dick in the world." from what i've seen
Jyosua Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 It was nice meeting you as well.. Hopefully you had a good time and didn't think we were too harsh at you. Lol, harsh? I got my ass kicked by you and Adonis, but that's about the farthest "harsh" would go as a description. XD I had fun, so I'll probably come to casuals as often as I can. Sorry I had to leave early: I've got a club meeting at 7 every other Saturday. I also had to leave a little early so I could pick up something from walmart for the meeting. @_@ Except for me. Please uphold the stigma that I am the biggest dick in the world. Because I am. Well, I didn't really talk to you during the time I was there, but you didn't seem to be too much of an asshole IRL.
Setsuna Posted January 15, 2012 Author Posted January 15, 2012 Well, I didn't really talk to you during the time I was there, but you didn't seem to be too much of an asshole IRL. Dem mind games :P
Romeyurhomey Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 No worries Josh we'll level up their game. Hope everyone has fun at CEO this weekend.
Jyosua Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) That reminds me, does anyone from Spring Hill or New Port Richey area need a ride? Tampa too, since I'll most likely have to pass by there anyhow. Edited January 16, 2012 by Jyosua
Guardian Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I found some new Valkenhayn tech today. If this shit is legit then his mix up game just became a whole new level of ridiculous.
SansProtocol Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I found some new Valkenhayn tech today. If this shit is legit then his mix up game just became a whole new level of ridiculous. ...I'm curious to know what it is. Somewhat terrified, but still very curious.
Jyosua Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 ...I'm curious to know what it is. Somewhat terrified, but still very curious. Yeah, didn't he rape your Hakumen with Valk when I first got there? No offense against your game, just it already looked pretty crazy.
Romeyurhomey Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 That usually happens when he plays Valk, but honestly I rather play against Valk than Relius. I just don't understand Relius yet >___>.
Jyosua Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Relius seems pretty easy to block. You just gotta watch for the fucking mixups. >_< As far as pressure, I haven't figured out quite how to approach him. Doesn't seem too hard though.
TheGreatReptar Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Relius has some pretty hard to react to/unreactable stuff. He can hold you in place with Ignis's 2D then IAD in to mixup between high-high or high-low or maybe even high-grab. He has a pretty nasty fuzzy guard setup that lets him do an instant j.C on you. He's also the king of frametraps. The caveat to Relius though, is the longer you take the get that first hit to convert into a combo, the less Ignis meter you should have, which limits combo and oki potential.
Jyosua Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Relius has some pretty hard to react to/unreactable stuff. He can hold you in place with Ignis's 2D then IAD in to mixup between high-high or high-low or maybe even high-grab. He has a pretty nasty fuzzy guard setup that lets him do an instant j.C on you. He's also the king of frametraps. The caveat to Relius though, is the longer you take the get that first hit to convert into a combo, the less Ignis meter you should have, which limits combo and oki potential. I must've been lucky enough to play against people who don't know him all that well. The mixups are killer though.
pktazn Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I found some new Valkenhayn tech today. If this shit is legit then his mix up game just became a whole new level of ridiculous. If I can't block it it's legit trololololol~ In all seriousness, I'll probably get blown up as usual aha. Are you going to CEO this weekend?
Kurushii Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 He has a pretty nasty fuzzy guard setup False
TheGreatReptar Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Didn't Guardian upload a video of a Relius fuzzy setup? Edit: Yea, I found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_nk_DeP548 Edited January 17, 2012 by TheGreatReptar
Kurushii Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 And it was sadly proven to be false by St1ckbug and Spark.
TheGreatReptar Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Orly? That's good to know. Don't have to worry about fuzzy shenanigans against him now. I need to brush up on a little bit of Relius so I can record 2D>IAD mixups and practice blocking those. =[
Jyosua Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Hey Kurushii, remember that awesome double cross-up mixup you did last night, that I somehow managed to block? Yeah, that was awesome. You should do it more often. XD
Guardian Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 And it was sadly proven to be false by St1ckbug and Spark. It's technicially not a fuzzy guard. It's just an "instant overhead". It obviously still works though. Yay for semantics and technicalities.
SansProtocol Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah, Adonis' Valk is one of the best. Beats me a good amount regardless of my current state of mind. Usually lose because my punish game is awful and I get bored just blocking all damn day. I feel sorry for Relius, really do. Block low, watch out for 6A, jump animation, throw, and 50 meter for the j.C RC. If you're playing Hakumen, it's even worse off for Relius (ignores unblockable set-ups and cross-ups with D). Overall, the fact that he loses so much steam on his somewhat already somewhat decent offense when you have to send Ignis off (with the credit card to get her nails done razor-sharp at the local Vietnamese nail salon) feels like complete bullshit. And like people have already said, the nice cross-ups they may still work won't lead to any significant damage and you're immediately on defense again while the doll recharges. Just .
pasteycracker Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Notice for ceo carpools: Tampa car is full o: Anyone not already confirmed with me needs to talk to Josh.
Kurushii Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Hey Kurushii, remember that awesome double cross-up mixup you did last night, that I somehow managed to block? Yeah, that was awesome. You should do it more often. XD I messed up the timing on it. I was trying to Led Ley during Ignis's hit to push you through me. The move is alright for full screen carry but kills the followup options to hell cause of prorate and tech. I feel sorry for Relius, really do. Block low, watch out for 6A, jump animation, throw, and 50 meter for the j.C RC. If you're playing Hakumen, it's even worse off for Relius (ignores unblockable set-ups and cross-ups with D). Overall, the fact that he loses so much steam on his somewhat already somewhat decent offense when you have to send Ignis off (with the credit card to get her nails done razor-sharp at the local Vietnamese nail salon) feels like complete bullshit. And like people have already said, the nice cross-ups they may still work won't lead to any significant damage and you're immediately on defense again while the doll recharges. Just . Yea, once someone figures his mixups out it becomes very difficult to break through someones defense with Relius. Have to be random with frame traps using Ignis. Yea the Haku matchup is going to end up in numbers close to what CT Nu vs Tager was back in the day. I hate the fact any character with great mobility requires you to use more Ignis to get in, which in turn means less damage possible afterwards to do. So many of my rounds if I get in i'll take out a huge chunk of someones health then i'm playing defense waiting for Ignis to come back and pray I get another chance out of the opponents pressure to finish the job. I think that's why I see so many Relius's using CA which I need to get in a habit of using. I agree it's sad though. I wouldn't be surprised he moves down in the loltierlists by the end of the games life cycle. I'm going to stick with him through it to become proficient in his style so whenever a new version comes I can pray they balance him out some. :/
Jyosua Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I messed up the timing on it. I was trying to Led Ley during Ignis's hit to push you through me. The move is alright for full screen carry but kills the followup options to hell cause of prorate and tech. Yeah, but it looked pretty awesome and it probably would've worked on me anyhow. I just happened to be in the right mindset and immediately thought "OH SHIT- MIXUP", but usually my reflexes aren't that great.
Kurushii Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah, but it looked pretty awesome and it probably would've worked on me anyhow. I just happened to be in the right mindset and immediately thought "OH SHIT- MIXUP", but usually my reflexes aren't that great. I was surprised. Overall you improved a lot from the last time I faced you. You dropped some bad habits and got better with your normal hitconfirm use. Keep it up man.
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