AC: Ky Kiske Discussion

[Ky-Kiske]

I hope your joking. Oh god somebody save this kid

Actually yes Im jocking :p once I saw the pot otg I thought for my self "... WTF... how.." :p

otg rules :D

[Shinobi!]

I think you were dead serious.... Impressions on the vids anyone??

[Ky-Kiske]

I wasnt seriuos!! I just think the pot otg are ridiculus! thats why I mentioned the otg I think this ky is the best! not S-tier witch is a good thing and not thrash tier witch is even better :p! very interisting char and solid in my opinion

[Sytha]

Ky's gonna have some fun ass stuff. ASE FRC looks like it will be important somehow. Either Recomboing or some sort of a mix up. Stun Dipper doesn't seem that different.The new 6H is nice. CSE doesn't seem that much slower. I haven't seen much Recomboing after LJ tho. But I'm sure its possible.Stun Raising=Teh Awesome. Looks like 5K and 2K will still connect after 6K. I think that just means use 5H>6K>2K/5K>5H or whatever. Its a nerf. But its looks like it will still be used. I need to watch more. But I'm liking the new Ky thus far. I want to see more of his 6P tho.

[Immoral Flame]

Something that's been bugging me...how does Ky's IK look like?If he has something that looked like Rising force it would be pretty stupid to have an IK just like that. Any info or vids on this?

[H-F Blade]

So has anyone managed to download all the Ky vids off filebank? If so, please upload somewhere else because I'm just dying to see these. The one match vs Sol just makes me itch for more. >.< lol Ky yell's "Stun Dipper!" now.

[Mr. Mamation]

he seems like more fun, but i still havent seen enough vids to think of anything good. MuSt WaTcH MoRe

[Chojin]

Ky looks to be a bit more interesting than his Slash counterpart. Fast ASE seems good, FB j.D looks great, CSE is still useful, and 6H looks fairly solid. I'm not sure what to make of Lightning Orb at though point though; so far it look like you could use it to punish attempts to knock Ky out of CSE, but that's more of a shenanigan than anything. I'll have to wait until I see what it does on block/hit/CH, etc. I don't think the stun dipper nerf is that bad either. It's been a fairly dominant poke for Ky for so long and it was far too good in Slash against certain characters. New greed sever looks fine too, but then again, I was never a fan of GS loop.

[Mr. Mamation]

well other than the GS nerf i kindda like him. pretty much agree with Choji about everything else. It looks like they are trying to figure something out after the VT-knockdown and it seems like something might be done... FUN STUFF!!!

[PozerWolf]

FUN STUFF!!!

Why do you keep bringing that up? Kind of excited are you? Haha ;p

Watching some of the vids, it seems that Ky didn't get as bad as a tone down as well all expected. Most of the shit that was tone down was needed (fireballs, certain pokes, and what not). Overall, he still looks like an interesting character.

Tho, I never saw any 5S > 6HS type combos so far. But then again, I haven't seen many vids at all.

[低姿勢]

you can combo into and out of the lighting sphere. So sweep, lighting sphere, air combo yadda yadda

[Shinobi!]

Ky looks to be a bit more interesting than his Slash counterpart. Fast ASE seems good, FB j.D looks great, CSE is still useful, and 6H looks fairly solid. I'm not sure what to make of Lightning Orb at though point though; so far it look like you could use it to punish attempts to knock Ky out of CSE, but that's more of a shenanigan than anything.

His Lightning Orb is a continuation of lockdown after CSE sir. On one of the vids he did CSE-c.S-LO-GS crossover. No one seems to use the followup to that. I've seen it done at least 2 times out of 20 matches. That is a puzzling question. Is it because its not worth the extra tension? Does it kill momentum with Ky if it is blocked? Does it just plain suck balls? I wanna know these things.

I think that ASE and its FRC now is a better version than Slash's. Both versions speed to the floor and have a-ok recovery. The good thing about ASE FRC now is because of one thing: If you have someone in a corner and use it, you can backdash and throw another one. This little tidbit can kill pokers out of many things to get out of the corner with Ky. You just can't get out the corner this time with Ky. Lockdown game has been reassured.

Stun Raising: My new favorite toy.

SR has excellent oki possibilities and mixup game. Also, if you throw against anyone with it by your side, it's your FRC for a combo. Hits twice for good damage for a projectile like that. It'll put some people in their place in the corner believe me. The only thing weird about it is that since its a projectile, people get in a block position rather than walk away. Um...can you spell crossover??

Ok guys here's what I think of Lightning Javelin. GOD CANNON!!! Seriously, its good, very good. Its safe, bounces, and you can follow up......dunno about that last one. I know you can follow up, dont call me stupid. It is very hard to do. Very fuckin hard to do. I was seriously suprised at how hard this is to complete. But the secret to getting this done is height, all about height. But still good looking at it.

SD as I believe has not gotten the big nurf as all of us thought it was going to get. Still good at what it does...It's just short. Loses for the zoning combos like f.S-SD.

Havent seen ground SE FRC yet. Still looking for it.

GS has served it's ultimate purpose in this game and everyone can agree. Still comboable but just no loop. The boys have been removed from the men.

CSE sucks when it leaves, but is great when it's close range/corner lockdown.

Non-Ky impressions:

1) Opening for AC is cool. Like the bass of the song. But no anime makes Shinobi a sad boy.

2) SolvKy is excellently done this time around. Why does it look like Sol is trying to make a pass on Ky at the beginning?

3) Anji is officially flamboyantly gay...hard gay...

4) Announcer sucks balls now. I really dont wanna get a counter with this guy. They should have an option on the console version for the Slash dude.

Also, how many of you need me to upload some vids from the Filebank. I got to them just fine but I'll upload them if the demand for them is enough. If it is, expect them tomorrow.

Give me 4 votes and I'll do them. Thank you. And konnichiwa bitches.

[Mr. Mamation]

i just saw, this is some good stuff. yes, do it. im watching the one from gamechariot, Ky vs Test and i kindda like the ball o lightning

[PozerWolf]

Also, how many of you need me to upload some vids from the Filebank. I got to them just fine but I'll upload them if the demand for them is enough. If it is, expect them tomorrow.

Give me 4 votes and I'll do them. Thank you. And konnichiwa bitches.

Well, if you don't wanna upload them then it won't be no harm.

Still, you know what my answer is.

[Shinobi!]

An edit: Being as short as it is now, SD is confirmed a 2-hit now. I haven't seen many missed 2nd hits by far.

[Mr. Mamation]

okay, you can combo after GS crossup i saw it with my own two eyes and it was not CH. also the three hit jD looks pretty good. FUNNNNNNN!

[Shinobi!]

That there is a 2-hit sir. GS crossup combo is gonna be amazing in this game....also another non-Ky impression: Baiken sounds like an old lady...who likes cats...

[Nhur]

The changes looks very interesting. Is very bored play in slash and see all ky players making GS. GS, AND MORE GS T___T In one video Ky vs SO ky makes a counter with a S and later make 6k, this could be interesting for get some combos........becaus later make again slashand later a aircombo in Slash the time that the enemy is in the air is short than AC? the ainti air in ac could be S? What do you think? Edit: sorry for my very poorr english

[Ky-Kiske]

dont think S could be an anti air it didnt sound safe. it exposes u to a counter hit with an opponent with more expirience. the 2HS look great I thought they were going to nerf it completly and the CSE stills a good weapon for the wake up and the 6HS is simply awesome! I heard that lighting javelin has a frc point! is this true? and plz I need to see more if anyone could upload the vids I would be very gratefull :D

[H-F Blade]

Also, how many of you need me to upload some vids from the Filebank. I got to them just fine but I'll upload them if the demand for them is enough. If it is, expect them tomorrow.

Give me 4 votes and I'll do them. Thank you. And konnichiwa bitches.

Please do that. Must see more. x_X

[PozerWolf]

dont think S could be an anti air it didnt sound safe. it exposes u to a counter hit with an opponent with more expirience.

It was not a bad anti-air from Slash, and from the looks of it, it looks like nothing as really changed on it.

[Ky-Kiske]

yeah ur right it isnt bad but it isnt that safe either... if u catch ur opponent on it, it helps u a lot but if u miss it u can say bye to ur ass. it didnt change at all as pozer said so the effects are almost the same. and u have ur 2HS that´s better as an anti air

[Shinobi!]

Alright people, I will upload vids either today or at the latest Saturday. I have a good few matches to share to the public who haven't seen the filebank ones. 2HS is a better anti-air but S could be a good one in some conditions. I think it got another hitbox increase like it did in Slash. I think the Japs forgot all about 6P.

[Ky-Kiske]

hope thers some vids showing ky´s FBs and ppl doing the lightning javelin frc cuz I heard it has a frc point

[SiGeL]

I haven't/can't watch any of the vids vids/know of the final changes, but what did they do to 2HS? Is it still one hit/no jump cancel or something like that? Also, where is the FRC point on CSE and ACSE?