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  • 2 weeks later...
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I think the thing that gives me the most trouble is learning her pressure strings. That overhead is quite quick and the mixup kills me.

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In extend more than ever, barrier block is your friend vs Makoto.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Her overhead's actually a lot slower now. Her pressure's still pretty silly though. Also, her 5B is really fast and has similar range to Tsubaki's D:

  • 3 weeks later...
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Was playing around with a Makoto player and noticed that the second hit of Tsubaki's 5BB kept hitting her out of 3C. Has her 3C's hitbox been nerfed or was this just poor timing on the Makoto player's part?

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Was playing around with a Makoto player and noticed that the second hit of Tsubaki's 5BB kept hitting her out of 3C. Has her 3C's hitbox been nerfed or was this just poor timing on the Makoto player's part?

Pretty much what Stargazer said, but to clarify:

Makoto's 3C is a deceptive move. It LOOKS like it low-profiles stuff, which technically it sometimes still can do, but for the most part, the ACTUAL reason so much stuff whiffs on it is because it has head/body immunity, rather like Tsubaki's 214D series, so even move that hit along the ground won't land during those frames - this is why it can beat things like Tsubaki's various ground-based special moves.

However, as Stargazer points out, 3C has 37 frames of startup, and only frames 6-27 are actually H/B invulnerable, so as long as you attack her near the end of the animation, you get a free combo, especially because those frames are ALSO where her hitbox rises and stops being so low to the ground. So 3C works well as a reactionary counter by Makoto to, say, Tsubaki trying to 236X across at her in neutral, but it's a really poor choice for Makoto to just throw out there, because you have tons of time to jab her out with 2A/2B, and even failing that, a latish 5B/5C/whatever will still hit her.

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You can throw Makoto out of 3C.

Remember that she can also cancel it so that no attack comes out, and she may followup with a throw.

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