toanenadiz Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Okay, so what does a character like Hazama have against a command grab? Or Valk? Or Tao? Amane? Lambda? I am totally ignoring the point of your post but Lambda has gravity well to 'deal' with command grabs. Although it is really only useful against Plat or impatient Tagers.
Lich Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 lol... That's totally not risky at all, but anyway. I was just talking in general about characters without reversals, but I stopped there cuz I didn't want to list every character.
mAc Chaos Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Sure, maybe Bang has an easier time because of that than other characters, but to say it's a counter-pick soley because the character has a command grab? lolnope You are fixated on the word "counter pick" and missing the point. I only used the word counter pick because I was responding to Ctrl, who said that Haku is a counter pick to Bang. I was saying that if you're going to say if one character has an advantage over the other you should look at Bang's command grabs because they give his defense a harder time than against other characters. Not that they are literally a counter pick. Obviously it also helps him against non-Haku characters too, so you have to agree that it would help him against Hakumen too. So you are agreeing with me.
Lich Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 lol No I'm saying command grabs don't body haku-men free. It's an option that every character has to deal with and you have the luxury of having more defensive options than everyone else. Sure one of your MANY reversals doesn't work as well against command grabs, you have more options than other characters though, so just stop mashing your counters and you'll be good.
mAc Chaos Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 But I never said they body Hakumen for free. If you want to distinguish between characters, though: Lambda, Tao and Valk are highly mobile, so they won't be placed in that situation very often. Haku's drive is based on defense though and that's what the command grab counters. You make it sound like being stuck next to Tager while he is pressuring you should be no big deal. :P
Lich Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Really? Because it really sounds like that's what you're trying to say. Haku-men has 12k health because he needs it(no wait he doesn't), you can afford to get tagged by a few command grabs. Tao? 9.5k, Valk and Lambda 10k. Sure they're mobile so it's harder for them to get hit by those, but when they do, good bye health. Idk, I just feel like you shouldn't defend your character when he's just so perfect in all aspects. Just because you can't use your counters as much, you still have other reversals to blow up command grabs and you still have 12k health. =V
mAc Chaos Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I'm just saying that the command grab lets Bang be better against Hakumen than other characters without a command grab.
Mr.Biscuits Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Bang's command throw is mediocre at best. You'd be better off just taking the command throw in some situations. He'd need to spend 50 meter just to do meh damage.
mAc Chaos Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Wanna play Biscuits? I feel like getting bodied by Arakune.
Mr.Biscuits Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Give me about 30? I don't play Kune anymore but I will if you want.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Haku-men should just use Shippu to blow up command throws. Are you still on mAC?
mAc Chaos Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I haven't got on yet. I was gonna get on to body Biscuit's Ragna I mean get served an Inferno Divider sandwich.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I haven't got on yet. I was gonna get on to body Biscuit's Ragna I mean get served an Inferno Divider sandwich. Let's fight a few while you wait.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) rofl my hands are all greasy from cheesesticks. I should probably wash them before attemping dash install Houtenjins. I failed every single one. Protip: When you go for your j2A off of the corner combo, do 8 > j2A instead of 9 to start. That way you'll Fumajin the Burst if they go for one. Edited May 29, 2013 by Ctrlaltwtf
Ctrlaltwtf Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Our conn feels really bad... Yesterday was way better than this. This calls for a special solution... If there's one character I wouldn't want to fight with Kune it'd be Hakumen. Edited May 29, 2013 by Ctrlaltwtf
mAc Chaos Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Yeah I'll just play Kune. You don't block. I used to do nothing but block, but it was impossible against New York players. They gave 0 fucks. I know the Ragna matchup real well so I know where to look for openings and when it's safe to try and push buttons.
NoNombreHombre Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I got a new stick today, and I'm not done getting trolled yet. Anyone else up for embarrassing me on my own stream?
Ctrlaltwtf Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 So I looked outside and there's like a fucking maelstrom going on right now. That might have something to do with it.
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