Melvari Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Okay, so I bought this game a few days ago and I'm having a hard time enjoying it. I heard that BB was much easier for new players to get into compared to GG but I'm finding it to be quite the opposite. I have played nearly every fighter there is ranging from Street Fighter, Tekken, TvC, GG, to even the simpler games such as the Naruto, DBZ, and DoA, fighting games. I'm having trouble executing basic combos as it seems to be a bit difficult. I guess the sort of default character is Ragna and he feels horrible. I'm in the tutorial part where I have to basically make a quarter circle + directional inputs 2 or 3 times in addition to other commands and I simply can't do it because it's hard for me to consistently make the quarter circle input with a PS3 controller. I like fighting games but I do not want to buy a joystick. I've tried others characters like Noel, Makoto, and Hakumen but they didn't feel good either. However, I have had success by switching the control method to "Stylish" but honestly, that feels too easy and the fact that you can't burst or rapid cancel seems like I would be gimping myself in the long run(learning the game). Though it was a lot of fun.... Also, I had trouble executing distortion drive attacks that use the medium button input such as Taokaka's "Almost Becoming Two" technique. Any way to do it in the Stylish control mode? I can do the others just fine in Stylish mode. So, my main questions: Any character(s) recommended for a new player? Should I continue playing on Stylish or should I go ahead and focus on technical? I am by no means trying to be a competitive level player but I don't want to be a casual player or "newb" either. My aim is to become a "decent" player. For a bit of reference, Millia and Dizzy were my mains in GG.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 "because it's hard for me to consistently make the quarter circle input with a PS3 controller" Well, then your issue is your controller. If you can't deal with this, no char will make a real difference. tl;dr - BUY A JOYSTICK.
Zephyrus Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 If anything, I know how you feel on that one. I've just gotten used to ironing out QCF's on the analog stick or D-pad (the latter got easier at some point). If anything, keep practicing and you'll get it. Only advice I can give, really. Focus on Technical more, since it's more rewarding then using Stylish if you want to be decent.
Airk Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Honestly; there's no answer to your question besides "Practice and learn how to do QCF motions correctly." Plenty of folks can do them on pad just fine (heck, I don't even play on pad and I can generally manage them) - just like SF, TvC, GG, etc, you're going to need to be able to do the basic 'fighting game motions' - QC, DP, HC, and probably double QC. There are no "charge characters" in BB, so you can't take the "Guile route." That said, if you're not enjoying putting in the time to do this, and not really expecting/wanting to be a tournament competitive player, Stylish mode is fine - it doesn't give you access to all your character's tools, but if this is going to be a game that you pick up once a week or something to fool around with, that's not really a big deal. Don't think that playing in this mode lets you get out of learning a character either - it's still absolutely critical to understand what buttons and directions correspond to what actions, and how you can link them together. The biggest issue with stylish mode is that what you learn there doesn't carry very well into Technical, because, while what your character does is going to be largely the same, what you, the player, need to do to make it happen is completely different. So I would encourage you, for the moment, to mess around in both; Put in your practice time in technical and try to avoid getting too frustrated, but don't be afraid to flip the switch to stylish when you want to take it easy. At the end of the day, only you can decide how much time you want to put into this game, and what your expectations are, and then choose which mode will get you there.
Melvari Posted February 18, 2012 Author Posted February 18, 2012 Hmmm.... I kind of figured as much. I guess playing the easier fighters has sort of corrupted my brain a bit as it has been a few years since I've played a real technical fighter. My friends were never good at technical fighters so I stopped playing them. I'll continue to play Stylish but I will put most of my focus on becoming proficient in Technical. Haven't decided on a main yet but I experimented a bit and decided that I'll play with Tsubaki for a while as I feel like she would be a good character to help me transition into the feel of BlazBlue. Thanks for the help.
Airk Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Just curious, but what would you consider an "easier fighter" and why?
mMarikom Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Don't ever use stylish if you want to be anything beyond a complete beginner. Stylish is literally a renamed beginner mode. If you're having problems with the quarter circle motion on pad you need practice. Like execution practice. Like sitting in training mode and trying until you get it right. Iunno how much GG or SF you played, but unless you played a charge character or you didn't really play beyond learning basic moves you shouldn't be having problems with those motions. I know you're just trying to be decent but seriously...all of that fighting game experience should make QCFx2 a joke...like i'm really confused by this. It's even more confusing because, considering the frame buffer, BB is executionally easier than the fighters you listed in both basic and high level situations. I think you just need to hit the lab and grind out those QCF motions... Saying "I can't do quarter circle on pad" "Buy a joystick" makes little sense because it's an executional issue and he's not at a level nor is he trying to get to a level where a joystick is worth the money or even necessary. If you can handle Millia and Dizzy combos BB should seriously be a joke. Play Ragna. Mess around. Get your execution straight. But never switch to stylish if you want to be anything but casual. That's my 2 cents.
Airk Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Don't ever use stylish if you want to be anything beyond a complete beginner. Stylish is literally a renamed beginner mode. But never switch to stylish if you want to be anything but casual. The latter of these is much more accurate than the former; You can actually do some pretty solid stuff and be entirely acceptable at low-mid level play in Stylish/Beginner, if you spend the time to figure out how to connect the various combo parts that it auto-executes for you. Don't conflate "casual" with "complete beginner".
mMarikom Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Meh I suppose, but there is no way beginner would fly at what I consider "mid level play" due to no bursting, no real mixup considering moves are predetermined, and the lack of freedom to even do combos or certain normals...
catears Posted February 28, 2012 Posted February 28, 2012 You've played "nearly every fighter there is" yet you can't beat the tutorial mode in Blazblue. What the Hell?
Shiawase Posted February 28, 2012 Posted February 28, 2012 I'm not sure what your exact problem is with the motions but maybe try doing them slower/faster than you are now? Also use the d-pad if you aren't already.
Melvari Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 Just curious, but what would you consider an "easier fighter" and why? The Naruto fighters(Clash of Ninja and the Storm games), Bloody Roar, DoA, etc. Combos rarely required any directional input. In some of them there was only one real attack button, and special abilities were executed by just hitting a single button. The whole game basically played like BB's stylish mode though even it has more depth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FKeIjdMPFlE#t=35s Don't ever use stylish if you want to be anything beyond a complete beginner. Stylish is literally a renamed beginner mode. If you're having problems with the quarter circle motion on pad you need practice. Like execution practice. Like sitting in training mode and trying until you get it right. Iunno how much GG or SF you played, but unless you played a charge character or you didn't really play beyond learning basic moves you shouldn't be having problems with those motions. I know you're just trying to be decent but seriously...all of that fighting game experience should make QCFx2 a joke...like i'm really confused by this. It's even more confusing because, considering the frame buffer, BB is executionally easier than the fighters you listed in both basic and high level situations. I think you just need to hit the lab and grind out those QCF motions... Saying "I can't do quarter circle on pad" "Buy a joystick" makes little sense because it's an executional issue and he's not at a level nor is he trying to get to a level where a joystick is worth the money or even necessary. If you can handle Millia and Dizzy combos BB should seriously be a joke. Play Ragna. Mess around. Get your execution straight. But never switch to stylish if you want to be anything but casual. That's my 2 cents. Didn't play a lot of SF but I played a lot of GG. May also have something to do with the fact that this is my first real fighter on the PS3. I dunno. More practice. I'm not sure what your exact problem is with the motions but maybe try doing them slower/faster than you are now? Also use the d-pad if you aren't already. Thanks for the advice.
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