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how did you even figure these out :P

Pain.

i wish I had lambda's 2c to use against mac

Tsubaki's is better IIRC, besides the beating hotaru part, which your DP does fine.

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Tsubaki's is better IIRC, besides the beating hotaru part, which your DP does fine.

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stop mac, he's an expert tsubaki player who knows the odds of beating hotaru with a dp that loses invuln before it goes active, and they are not in your favor, stop using hotaru

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So I was going to jump online today

The other day I bought a patch cable from the campus store that was labeled ether net cable .

Now I'm going to do hw, and then furiously work around the wifi situation here. I should be on in about 7-8 hours

and it's pretty obvious that Carl is Haku's worst matchup's

dem unblockables :toot:

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they even gave hotaru 3 more frames of invuln in CP. ha. I wonder if that's fair for the doesn't hit crouchers thing.

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stop mac, he's an expert tsubaki player who knows the odds of beating hotaru with a dp that loses invuln before it goes active, and they are not in your favor, stop using hotaru

Does it really not? I thought that it would at least trade, which would be considered beating it in this situation.

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OK so I'm getting mad sick of this...

At seemingly completely random times and ONLY AFTER character select screen ... the loading (mu-12) insignia just loads forever until it finally will say connetion was lost with the other player and it will then forever try to connect .... the quickest way to deal with this is to simply eject the disc and reinsert .... I've times where this happens after 2 games and others where I play upwards of 40 .... but it always happens every time I play Bb and only Bb ? ... I even recently got my ps3 serviced... does anyone recognize this as a disc error or something ?

Cause if my ps3 is still busted I will rip my pubes out

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Does it really not? I thought that it would at least trade, which would be considered beating it in this situation.

How could an unfavorable trade be considered beating it?

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OK so I'm getting mad sick of this...

At seemingly completely random times and ONLY AFTER character select screen ... the loading (mu-12) insignia just loads forever until it finally will say connetion was lost with the other player and it will then forever try to connect .... the quickest way to deal with this is to simply eject the disc and reinsert .... I've times where this happens after 2 games and others where I play upwards of 40 .... but it always happens every time I play Bb and only Bb ? ... I even recently got my ps3 serviced... does anyone recognize this as a disc error or something ?

Cause if my ps3 is still busted I will rip my pubes out

Its not you, its netplay (its PSN as a whole I think).

If you check network connection, usually it will say you can get an IP, can get internet access, but it says PSN: Failed

How could an unfavorable trade be considered beating it?

You would have a chance at getting out of the corner since tsubaki's DP (C and D I think) launch pretty high on CH

I should play some tsubaki so I can test these firsthand.

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Well does it happen to anyone else like its happening to me? I don't want to wait till cp to find out its not a disc thing

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You would have a chance at getting out of the corner since tsubaki's DP (C and D I think) launch pretty high on CH

I should play some tsubaki so I can test these firsthand.

It's impossible actually. Hotaru can't trade since it is invincible throughout the entire attack. Hotaru is amazing.

But I've never seen Tsubaki's DP trade in her favor, even against a 5A, so I assumed it would be unfavorable. Also C DP has no invincibility in Extend (But it is an amazing move though).

Well does it happen to anyone else like its happening to me? I don't want to wait till cp to find out its not a disc thing

I've never had that happen.

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You would have a chance at getting out of the corner since tsubaki's DP (C and D I think) launch pretty high on CH

I should play some tsubaki so I can test these firsthand.

Nah, hotaru has much more hitstun on CH than Tsubaki's DPs, and C DP has no invuln in EX. D DP is only marginally better than A DP, it has 1, one more invulnerable frame.

The A DP only has 9 frames of invuln and goes active on 10. Hotaru has 14 frames of invuln and goes active on 11 or something.

The hotaru is not going to be used meaty very often, if you want to beat someone's dp on wakeup you try to use your invulnerable move as late as possible without exposing yourself to a 5a. so in order for tsubaki's dp to beat hotaru, you're likely going to have to use it 10 frames or so after waking up. if you're trying to use it to beat anything other than hotaru you're toast. if he tries to use hotaru, most likely he's on top of you. Even if you get a CH you have zero combo potential in EX. you get 600 damage if you time it just right to call it out. but more than likely you're going to eat 3-4k damage. With that kind of option you are better off calling it out by blocking and trying to DP after the hotaru, I think.

It wouldn't seem to be quite the same in CP because tsubaki's DP is better, but hotaru is 1-17 invuln then too so I'm sure it will again be beating it, BUT quite possibly not the D Dp anymore.

But you can crouch hotaru in CP so there's that, but then tsubaki comes for 2800 damage + combo after

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god, nerfing hotaru like that

cp haku is like ct carl, a character that would be complete ass if not for a broken mechanic bailing him out and basically making him only that

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Let's see....

GGs to: JackOfAce (think that was it), Hondo, Mokyun, MegaChurch-, Yaya-numbers, sgt mjr something, Dragon_Install_3, and anyone else I might've missed.

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ggs TD. I did much better off with hazama. Getting zoned with either jin or tsubaki gets me impatient fast.

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ggs. hazama has the best chance. his chains are anti-summon, rachel has nothing that flat out beats them. she has to move. if blocked rachel can find herself in big trouble rather quickly.

jin has it easier with nice normals and some form of zoning. tsubaki is just running on a treadmill. at least she has a few situational tools, with charges l mean.

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