Faust in Accent Core : General Discussion

[Wirya]

Hello guys, I've made some updates to the Encyclopedia thread. Tell me if something's wrong.

[Zinac]

Hello guys, I've made some updates to the Encyclopedia thread. Tell me if something's wrong.

Looks great to me

[Wirya]

@Zinac : Thanks ^^ I've updated the Encyclopedia again, I added the "Dust Cancel" trick.

[DarthTrey]

I've updated the Encyclopedia again, I added the "Dust Cancel" trick.

OH SHIT, that trick is dirty thanks Wirya :keke:

[Zinac]

I've updated the Encyclopedia again, I added the "Dust Cancel" trick.

Lol what the hell, I've never heard of this before, but it does seem to work. Didn't know you could whiff special cancel dusts. You don't seem to be able to get the full invulnerability from the 5D though, so it seems limited to whiffing through very unactive moves. For example it doesn't seem you can do it through Faust's 6HS.

[Wirya]

Dust Cancel is quite old, actually. Yes, the invulnerability we can get is very short, maybe only 1 or 2 frames. We can do it with Eddie too, since his 5D has a feet-invulnerability effect ^^

[Gerk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfR-cOLy5gg

Another video. Real fast before I head off to school---any input and/or criticism, constructive or otherwise, would be a big help to me. Alrighty, thanks, later on. I hope I seem to be getting better. :P

[dice]

try to do more run in and 236hs, wenever u land a 2p on an opponent they seem to always block immediately, try to do that more n if they figure out that patern then in stead on 236hs wen u run in, do a 6p or 5k instead . One notable thing to is u block low alot on wen ur opponent jumps in, unless he hits the ground keep bloking high, axel has that funny dive wen he does his air attacks, even myself i found getting caught by that. at 3:02 (roughly) Axel air dashed for a while there, us hould be able to react on a dash that long and do 2k, or even 5k and combo right after,he was at a perfect hight to do so You should also try to do some more air cancels and poke, u did alot of jumping and hs without fdc the jump, almost most of ur jumps should have that but yeah it was a close match in the end

[Akira]

I saw more Axl throwing than you(maybe it's me and my habit of throwing too much) And at the start you used 6P too recklessly. 6P works as a anti-air. Thinking about it, there were moments when you could use 5K or 6P, weren't there? The rest dice's already told =] Dice: It's 214H. There isn't a 236H move o.o

[uremog]

i've never heard of dust canceling either o_O. it's kinda cool, but i dunno how useful it can be. ^_^ but man, if we got full invulnerability from dust canceling, faust would be worse than reload slayer. they'd so have to take that out.

[Akira]

i've never heard of dust canceling either o_O. it's kinda cool, but i dunno how useful it can be.

^_^ but man, if we got full invulnerability from dust canceling, faust would be worse than reload slayer. they'd so have to take that out.

But Faust's 5D doesn't have full invincibility. It only has 12 frames of upper body invincibility, and it's no way nearly practical as Slayer's BDC was.. o.o

Maybe a way to use this is to counter single-hit attacks or projectiles(like doing 41236K when you have a Stun Edge on your face)

[Senkei]

na i've tested it...it's pretty much useless

[dice]

Dice: It's 214H. There isn't a 236H move o.o

im looking at it the wrong way

[Wirya]

Dust Cancelling is only useful against moves with very short active time. Like Johnny's 5H and 6H.

[Diirty_Kiickz]

I cant remember if i read this on Dustloop or heard it through word of mouth, but is there a ratio/percenage for each item, in regards to their probablity of showing up.....chart wise, that is?? Any help would be much appreciated...

[Akira]

I cant remember if i read this on Dustloop or heard it through word of mouth, but is there a ratio/percenage for each item, in regards to their probablity of showing up.....chart wise, that is?? Any help would be much appreciated...

If I recall correctly, yes.

They've showed it on the Slash Enciclopedia, but there weren't on the AC Enciclopedia... maybe it's the same as in Slash?

[Zinac]

If I recall correctly, yes.

They've showed it on the Slash Enciclopedia, but there weren't on the AC Enciclopedia... maybe it's the same as in Slash?

I doubt it since theres a new item. Overall I believe the Slash Encyclopedia was done much better that than Break.

[Diirty_Kiickz]

That sux, the info would really be usefull right about now. Goin by ball park figures, it seems the Tub (tirai or w/e) come outs at a rate similar to the hammer, maybe a tade less frequent?!? I would actually love to see Fausts' item probability ratio get totally mixed up and some what random in the next game.....

[rexkim]

I think Potemkin is really rare. I played for around two or so hours today as Faust and haven't got a single Potemkin 0.0 Oh and question. Faust's four chest overdrive. Does it give you angel always if you're winning badly? I did the overdrive MANY times and 4/5 times, I got the angel right off the bat 0.0;;

[Gerk]

Are you holding down the button? As of AC, Faust needs to hold down a button (any button...except Dust---and start of course---but it would be nice if Dust was just old-style random select) to manually assign the angel. Mindgames, son. Unless you're playing on a US-style cabinet, then it's just punching the MF in the face who decided to look at your buttons. Or save your tension for RCs and FBs.

[Zinac]

if your opponent hits ANY button before you after the super is activated, they automatically get the angel. Hope that helps.

[rexkim]

Oh okay. Wow. That overdrive is useless(er). xD Thanks Zinac. Oh I have a few questions. What are some good crossups with Faust and is there a point to the pogo going my way FRC?

[Senkei]

Oh okay. Wow. That overdrive is useless(er). xD Thanks Zinac.

Oh I have a few questions. What are some good crossups with Faust and is there a point to the pogo going my way FRC?

the overdrive isn't that useless if you can time it accordingly on wake-up.

cross-ups.. on wake up IAD FDC j. D or IAD Airpogo....thats really about it i believe.

going my way frc has a point... i use it to reapply pressure and to catch people off guard...it is also used to continue combos... even though most know about the Frc they still get surprised by it.....it also makes you more safe when it is blocked.

[Gerk]

The Going My Way FRC also is fun in that it can send Faust to the ground ridiculously fast, so if your opponent is being canonical and blocking it high you can throw a 2.P and get a nice ridiculously prorated combo going from the crouching punch. Not really Faust related but I'd just like to say "HERE COMES DAREDEVIL" on a J-style cabinet where I can't see the opponent or hear the credit ring, scares the living shit out of me.

[rexkim]

Hm. I noticed that the blanket and fall from sky move has two FRCs. What uses do they have (for set ups and the like). Also, does the bomb bag have any real uses?