Dawn of Musou Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Does Jubei appear in any CP ending? I don't even know if he went to ikaruga like everyone else. He hasn't appeared in any ending so far, but there's a high chance he went just like everyone else.
Arvoyea Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) She doesn't know the trick to the PAL key, we're good for now. I love you for making that MGS reference. No homo. While that section of MGS1 was annoying, you have to admit it was ambitious and handled well despite limitations. Good ol' Konami. Now if they can make more games nowadays that weren't Metal Gear so Kojima can get a break, not that I don't like Metal Gear. So, to get back on topic, I hope Kokonoe can have a bigger role, even maybe playable. She really reminds of Guilty Gear's Baiken by having pink hair, constant coarse language and really wants revenge, and also of Sol in terms of her past in making the Murakumo units. And she's super sexy despite aforementioned attitude. I also miss Lambda. Edited February 1, 2013 by Arvoyea
harmless kitten Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I don't remember Jubei being in any arcade mode, let alone ending. He's probably in Ikaruga somewhere, but considering it's a dissolved country spread out over five Hierarchical Cities, that "somewhere" is pretty big. Which reminds me: how long (as in over a span of time) is the story mode going to be if the characters are going to be moving from city to city? Unless all the cities are within a day's travel of one another, it seems like we're going to get some really stretched out sequences. Really wish there was a map of some sort...but that would require just where in the world all the cities are. @mitsuyoshi: The Master Unit is still very much intact. The whole goal of Terumi and co. is to bring Amaterasu out of the Boundary. The Imperator's speech was kind of ambiguous and IIRC when CS was first released everybody thought that she had destroyed Amaterasu, only for it to turn out it was a misunderstanding due to her distinctive speaking style.
Tokkan Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Which reminds me: how long (as in over a span of time) is the story mode going to be if the characters are going to be moving from city to city? Unless all the cities are within a day's travel of one another, it seems like we're going to get some really stretched out sequences. Really wish there was a map of some sort...but that would require just where in the world all the cities are. I don't think they're very far away from each other, the central tower of Ikaruga is visible from most stages, which are all in different cities. Only stages it's not visible in are Colosseum, Grave Marker of Bases, Sealed Space and Rachel's stages (which still say they're in Kagutsuchi, even though they obviously aren't).
harmless kitten Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Hell, I forgot about that damn tower. Guess that definitely confirms they're within a day's walk of each other, or at least Ibukido. Actually, if there's some form of intercity transport such as aircraft or shuttles, that cuts down on the time a lot (although I'm sure Ragna will still walk everywhere instead).
Dawn of Musou Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Ragna's too cool for transportation. What's below Ibukido again? Failed copies of Noel right? I wonder if anyone else is going to discover them during CP's story mode.
harmless kitten Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I think it's just transport like that would have too many people...and there's the issue of having no $$$. He probably spent it all on feeding Tao or buying his favorite ramen... Yes, there's the Ibukido Cauldron and base bodies for Mu down there. Still there, unless someone moved them all out for whatever reason.
mitsuyoshi Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I don't remember Jubei being in any arcade mode, let alone ending. He's probably in Ikaruga somewhere, but considering it's a dissolved country spread out over five Hierarchical Cities, that "somewhere" is pretty big. @mitsuyoshi: The Master Unit is still very much intact. The whole goal of Terumi and co. is to bring Amaterasu out of the Boundary. The Imperator's speech was kind of ambiguous and IIRC when CS was first released everybody thought that she had destroyed Amaterasu, only for it to turn out it was a misunderstanding due to her distinctive speaking style. Well doesn't i already say that i know about the mistranslation already after checking the wiki? What i say is that i still doesn't know about the master unit condition,i not saying that she destroy the master unit. Anyway thanks for the master unit info and sorry if i say to much and about Jubei he really doesn't appear in any ending? Now this is really fishy looks like Mori is still have some surprise for us especially for Jubei,because why he hide all the information about him and doesn't this game will bring an end to six heroes subplot and will have the six heroes and sector seven as the central point in the game? Really there's something wrong especially Jubei,he is really suspicious,because he have a strong connection for sector seven and the six heroes and he doesn't appear on any of the trailer and arcade ending and no one has mention him like he never exist. Surely mori is plotting something. Edited February 1, 2013 by mitsuyoshi
Mu Nova Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I have back after checking the wiki,so that mistranslation is not making the theory about her damage the master unit and she say all of it to taunt them ? So that mean the master unit condition is still unknown and yeah Kokonoe will become a high tier character but story wise i doubt she can beat her father. I kinda doubt that she couldn't, honestly. Terumi points out that being the child of the physically and magically most powerful beings to ever live is pretty impressive--she could really mess stuff up if she wanted. But as I understand it she wants/prefers to do things on her own merits, rather than the abilities she inherited from her parents, so that holds her back in that regard. A Jubei-Kokonoe fight would be interesting.
mitsuyoshi Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I kinda doubt that she couldn't, honestly. Terumi points out that being the child of the physically and magically most powerful beings to ever live is pretty impressive--she could really mess stuff up if she wanted. But as I understand it she wants/prefers to do things on her own merits, rather than the abilities she inherited from her parents, so that holds her back in that regard. A Jubei-Kokonoe fight would be interesting. Well i don't think she inherited her father power because there's no clue about her having the power of her father and Jube have more experience in battle and his full ability is still unknown and if she really inherited her father power then how can Hazama still doesn't really scare with her while he really scare with Jubei? If you don't believe me play Taokaka story once more and you will see he pulling back after Jubei appear.
harmless kitten Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Anyway thanks for the master unit info and sorry if i say to much and about Jubei he really doesn't appear in any ending? Now this is really fishy looks like Mori is still have some surprise for us especially for Jubei,because why he hide all the information about him and doesn't this game will bring an end to six heroes subplot and will have the six heroes and sector seven as the central point in the game? Really there's something wrong especially Jubei,he is really suspicious,because he have a strong connection for sector seven and the six heroes and he doesn't appear on any of the trailer and arcade ending and no one has mention him like he never exist. Surely mori is plotting something. It's not exactly that suspicious. I don't recall Jubei being mentioned in any of the trailers or arcade mode coverage for Continuum Shift. Chrono Phantasma is just continuing the trend. Maybe Hakumen or Valkenhayn or Kokonoe talks about him in Chrono Phantasma, but that's the farthest extent. Frankly, Jubei isn't really that important to the plot right now. He's doing his own thing. He could be up to top secret spoilery info, or he could be rolling in a pile of Actinidia polygama. I don't think Kokonoe is scared of Jubei, she's just still pissed at him. Hell, until CS she says it's been something like twenty years since she's seen him. She also knows how futile it is to fight him.
mitsuyoshi Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 It's not exactly that suspicious. I don't recall Jubei being mentioned in any of the trailers or arcade mode coverage for Continuum Shift. Chrono Phantasma is just continuing the trend. Maybe Hakumen or Valkenhayn or Kokonoe talks about him in Chrono Phantasma, but that's the farthest extent. Frankly, Jubei isn't really that important to the plot right now. He's doing his own thing. He could be up to top secret spoilery info, or he could be rolling in a pile of Actinidia polygama. I don't think Kokonoe is scared of Jubei, she's just still pissed at him. Hell, until CS she says it's been something like twenty years since she's seen him. She also knows how futile it is to fight him. Still think he will get a important role though and the one i say scare to Jubei is Hazama not Kokonoe.
TPPR10 Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Now that I think about it, I think only time Jubei is referenced in the arcade modes in in Taokaka's CS arcade. I personally think the reason why Hazama takes off when Jubei shows up is not because Jubei is that strong but due the fact that, well, Hazama is allergic to cats. I think Hazama would be bit afraid of Kokonoe, if Kokonoe would leave her lab to hunt down him herself.
Surf Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 I don't think Kokonoe is scared of Jubei, she's just still pissed at him. Hell, until CS she says it's been something like twenty years since she's seen him. Theres this pic in Phase Shift 4 where baby Kokonoe is with Jubei. I wondet if this actually happened or it was just drawn to be cute. We know little of Kokonoe's child hood years really. As for her problem with Jubei, Im sure it stemed from him being proclaimed as the strongest creature ever, but he couldnt even manage to save his wife and sister-in-law from Terumi. So it begs the question, how old was she when Nine was killed. Probably not too old. But old maybe enough to maybe remember her, same with Celica. How did she end up diving into science and get away from Jubei, etc etc. A lot of questions. Id like to see some interactions between Kokonoe and Jubei. Im sure itd be extremely awkward on both ends. I dont think she truly hates him, she just cant forgive the fact he couldnt even manage to save his own family. Even though he helped save the world.
Ehecatl Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Theres this pic in Phase Shift 4 where baby Kokonoe is with Jubei. I wondet if this actually happened or it was just drawn to be cute. We know little of Kokonoe's child hood years really. As for her problem with Jubei, Im sure it stemed from him being proclaimed as the strongest creature ever, but he couldnt even manage to save his wife and sister-in-law from Terumi. So it begs the question, how old was she when Nine was killed. Probably not too old. But old maybe enough to maybe remember her, same with Celica. How did she end up diving into science and get away from Jubei, etc etc. A lot of questions. Id like to see some interactions between Kokonoe and Jubei. Im sure itd be extremely awkward on both ends. I dont think she truly hates him, she just cant forgive the fact he couldnt even manage to save his own family. Even though he helped save the world. Oh I'm sure she remembers her mother. It's the reason she has such a vendetta against Terumi and is so hell-bent proving she won't end up like her. I bet she got front row seats to whatever horrors he visited upon her mother. And her problem with her father may come from that. Or maybe he just became a crap dad after Nine's death when she needed a father who'd step up and be there for her. It wouldn't be uncommon for a dad to suddenly stop being a good parent after the lose of their wife, either because the kids look too much like their mother and he just wants to forget or maybe he turns to alcoholism or maybe he's just too wrapped up in his own grief to see how much his kids need him. That could have happened to Jubei and it'd explain Kokonoe's resentment.
Tokkan Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Oh I'm sure she remembers her mother. It's the reason she has such a vendetta against Terumi and is so hell-bent proving she won't end up like her. I bet she got front row seats to whatever horrors he visited upon her mother. No, she didn't. Trinity did, however. And it sure as hell traumatised her.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Ragna's too cool for transportation Ragna's stage is a monorail
harmless kitten Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Ragna's stage is a monorail That he never uses.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 That he never uses. Its moving everytime you fight on it though D: I think the idea is that you're supposed to be encountering Ragna while he's en route to his next target.
mAc Chaos Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I figured he's like a hobo and just sleeps in the outskirts of town, near the trains and junkyards and factories or wherever people can leave him the fuck alone. And he can just jump onto the monorail for wherever he wants to go next.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I just imagined Ragna with a cardboard sign reading " Blood Kain now OD only PLEASE HELP"
mitsuyoshi Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Now that I think about it, I think only time Jubei is referenced in the arcade modes in in Taokaka's CS arcade. I personally think the reason why Hazama takes off when Jubei shows up is not because Jubei is that strong but due the fact that, well, Hazama is allergic to cats. I think Hazama would be bit afraid of Kokonoe, if Kokonoe would leave her lab to hunt down him herself. Well,i know he allergic to cats,but if that's the case why he doesn't look that scared when Tao show up while when Jubei show up he always seem piss and chose to withdraw instead? Jubei is one of the six heroes that even Hakumen acknowledge his ability,that's why i think Jubei is stronger than we anticipated or his look and if i remember correctly he's the world strongest right?Surely he even stronger than Hakumen or Hazama if he can get such a title and last one the one who seal Hakumen and Hazama into the boundary is Jubei right?Surely we can't underestimated him anymore if he have a ability like that.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I don't think Hazama's cat allergies are supposed to be a serious plot device :P
TD Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I figured he's like a hobo and just sleeps in the outskirts of town, near the trains and junkyards and factories or wherever people can leave him the fuck alone. And he can just jump onto the monorail for wherever he wants to go next. for the meager price of eternal service, i'm pretty sure rachel would let him stay at the castle.
Anfingrimm Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I just imagined Ragna with a cardboard sign reading " Blood Kain now OD only PLEASE HELP" "Family kidnapped by insane ghost, need money for kung-fu training and hair gel."
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