LunaKage Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Well Ive been through this song and dance before. The best thing we can do is relax, wait patiently, and not bitch about nerfs lol
Wild Candy Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 From what I've read, Noel seems to be strengthened a little (But it's to early to tell.) I read somewhere that she can cancel into speacials with her chain revolver again, so that should open up some more combo pathways. On a more visual note: At first i hated her new outfit, but now i think it looks better then the original. I also read on Blazblue Wiki that she's supossed to be much more confident in Chrono Phantasma, which should be a nice change of pace.
Litherain-XIII Posted November 11, 2012 Author Posted November 11, 2012 New info on CP noel coming soon either today or tomorrow ill update as soon as possible. On a serious note one of the changes seemed to refered to her 4D being changed somehow in bad way for us. One of the testers seemed to stated that they couldnt 4D ragnas gauntlet hades or something along the lines of that. Im not sure entirely since im using a translator to see a bit but as soon as Hakimiru help translate more clearly Ill update the changes accordingly
Litherain-XIII Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 **THREAD UPDATE** New info from the loketest on November 11.
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I'm still kinda new at this sorta thing, but since i'm kind of an optimist. I think some of those chages are good. (It's a new game, so it's only natural that old combos would die and new combos would would be born.) Either way, I'll use Noel Reguardless! (Her new design looks sweet!)
Raptor Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Drive follow ups also seem to have invulnerability? I can already here the whambulance.
Setsuna Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Finally some updates, Thank you for the hard work Lith ~ Invul on Drive Follow Ups ? Hmmmmmm :3
cadpgamer1992 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 These might sound like stupid questions, but is noel's crush trigger 236A+B? Can it also be comboed into from pressure strings and/or hit? On a side note, I'm probably getting my hopes up, but I hope the Air-dash from j.2C can be used for easy and decent oki.
Litherain-XIII Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Crush trigger input is just A+B with 25% heat. Everyone can combo from it since it has long hitstun if it successfully guard crushes the opponent. Also some can already do crush trigger combos by using it in the middle of a combo. However no one has attempted to try this with noel during the loketests so its uncertain how good hers is as far as comboing with it since they say her CT is rather short on range. As far as the air dash from j.2C if its midscreen it probably depends on how high it is otherwise i doubt it gives noel oki at all considering it doesnt give noel a chance to REALLY enforce something without fear of dps or a potential anti air if revolver blast > j.2C was high in the air. Another reason why is because the timing for the air dash is almost on time for the opponents tech but the problem is the range of the dash and the initial follow up after landing to get a frame advantage on the opponent it would require most likely another ground dash or 2 to be in the oppoenets face to get them with a 5A or 2A on their wake up which is still vunerable to dps. Also this is where her j.2C may have to step in as a jump in with heat behind it to RC the recovery effect it has while hitting a lamding j.5C to continue pressure but this is assuming her j.2C has enough range on it under her and on the flares from the gun. Its pretty iffy imo unlike bang who can bait dps with his 2D on ppls wake up. we cant do that with 4D (as of now) but maybe in CP since they say 4D went through dead spike and stuff. Edited November 13, 2012 by Litherain-XIII
Chaoschao222 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 AH doesn't work on projectiles. Tried on Platinum's bombs and Kokushi, but got hit normally Aw :c Still, these changes don't seem too bad, though I wouldn't call them too good, either...
Litherain-XIII Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 I agree. i want a new jump cancel somewhere honestly or something else good. Its getting to the point where im staring to wonder if noel is getting worse overall compared to other characters who changes implied they becoming S tier material *cough*...bang..*cough* carl...ta-ger T_T
Alpha152 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 weeeeeeeee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H9aejgfueg&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEUCLxGDd8&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FdfeUUA2I&list=PL7D40CD0119AD1858&index=4&feature=plpp_video
Ichipoo Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I was under the assumption that based on what I've read on j.2C, it gives Noel Oki, thus FINALLY giving her a reason to do more air combos, but after watching a video, that sadly doesn't seem the case, at least on midscreen. But it's still under testing so who knows.
Litherain-XIII Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) The problem was that the noel player used 2 jumps thats why they were too high up in the air for noel to follow up midscreen. if he used 1 jump into revolver blast > j.2C then dash cancel afterwards it MIGHT have worked along the lines of oki (i personally still doubt it) but that wasnt the case in the carl video. On another note chamber shot looks pretty safe on block and barrier block too. i was surprised to see chamber shot push noel far back enough for ragna to whiff a 5B completely and still able to block afterwards. Also the 4D that went through dead spike seemed like the invincibility wast too short as they say. But then again it could be just perception... Edited November 13, 2012 by Litherain-XIII
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Just watched some footage of CP Noel, her design looks great and it looks like she has a lot potential. (Chamber Shot looks like it will be very useful.) Anyway, I think Noel has a lot of potential in this game. (She lost in the match, but it was against Ragna, and she has a disadvantage against him. So....)
dsmoove12 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Hmm new noel looks interesting, looking good still to me lol. R.I.P. 2D and hello RB follow ups
Chaoschao222 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Ds stop being so tsun, you know you love that 2D rainbow.
Putin Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 So, are retarded people still going to mash D with her in CP?
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Chain Revolver Abusers give Noel a bad name, I hope we don't get tons of those in CP.
Litherain-XIII Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 I think it may lower down the drive mashers since they just nerfed 2D like a mofo. i also hope 4D isnt as mashy to a degree kinda hoping it requires a bit of timing instead of easy mash that should force ppl to actually use her normals more often.
LunaKage Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Scrubs mash D. The key was to know how to USE D, which I bet will still be an important part of her game.
Putin Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Scrubs mash D because they often get away with it compared to mashing with other characters, therefore they keep at it. So, let me rephrase. Will scrubs be forced to stop pressing that D like their life depends on it, or their poor victims still have to show them the hard way? (which is pretty tiring to be honest)
Ichipoo Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Watched another video and lol at dat slow as hell 2D rainbow. 3C looks like it's even more "-" on block.
cadpgamer1992 Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Watched another video and lol at dat slow as hell 2D rainbow. 3C looks like it's even more "-" on block. Link please
Ichipoo Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Link pleasehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FdfeUUA2I
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