[CP] Hazama Gameplay Discussion [New members read first post]

[Putin]

I've been doing some theory fighter lately trying to figure out some Burensou setups, since straight up Jakatsu > Burensou seems too obvious; then this awesome video pops up.

Rocha Zaneiga setup > Jakatsu crossunder > Burensou? That would be amazing, but Rocha would probably show it if it worked.

[_Sey]

I've been doing some theory fighter lately trying to figure out some Burensou setups, since straight up Jakatsu > Burensou seems too obvious; then this awesome video pops up.

Rocha Zaneiga setup > Jakatsu crossunder > Burensou? That would be amazing, but Rocha would probably show it if it worked.

Gotta wait for dat bbcp frame data to be able to theory fight on this kind of things.

Personally I'm interested in knowing if j214B still has the same frame data as extend and if it's possible to end combos with 2C tkj214B instead of going for another jCxN j214B.

Right now tk j214B setups a safejump that catches rolls just like the 214d~b x2 setup in the corner, if the damage loss isn't huge I would definitely prefer going for stronger oki than just lol2amash oki

Need more Udon vids.

Edited April 2, 2013 by _Sey

[Guymam]

You guys don't have the mook? Disgusting peasants.

[Lich]

I have the mook. =p Still running through it, and mods are breaking down all the Japanese. lol Frame data should be up soon. I have most of the official changes done, but I can't read Japanese so I can't finish. lol Actually just going to post what I have.

[AMB Bakery]

Time for us to start (or continue) learning Japanese.

[Guymam]

2C: + Head invuln frames 8 – 15, so no more trading.

- Added 12 frames of recovery… (holy shit)

More like 2free

[NoSales]

I'm sad about the 6B change. I love to just throw it out in pressure, since it's +3.

6A seems better. The level down in attack gives you slightly less time to confirm into a super, but it's not as bad on block, plus it gives ~9 heat on hit (last I checked, at least).

Do we have specific numbers for j.C's P2, out of curiousity?

Edited April 3, 2013 by NoSales

[Lich]

Every jumping normal that isn't J.Cxn got MAYBE a few numbers switched hat I felt it wasn't enough to really list any real change. His air game stays the same for some reason. lol

Just double checked, J.2C is literally the same button, but active for one more frame. lol

Edit: Sorry misread. First hit is 89, then every following hit p2 is 94.

I know I'mma feel 2c nerfs. D: I guess it needed it, though because looking back... that shit is too safe for how much damage it gives. lol

Edited April 3, 2013 by Lich

[ZeroRaider]

Well shit, time to flash kick air approaches even more now! :3c

[Lich]

Except flash kick is waaay more punishable now. lol

[Guymam]

Just AA with rising j.A don't be a pussy bro.

[ZeroRaider]

Then you do it again, duh. I thought you guys knew this. Step yo game up, sucka.

[_Sey]

No more trading w/ 2C is pretty good actually, right now you can do 2C 4DD j.C xN \/ 5C j.CxN... or something like that and get ~4k, that's pretty much the most dmg Hazama has ever done off a meterless AA

More recovery sucks though

Edited April 4, 2013 by _Sey

[Ctrlaltwtf]

CH Air throw is the only AA I need.

[Guymam]

CH Air throw is the only AA I need.

I can't like you because you quote yourself like some narcissistic fuck.

According to a beautiful fair haired maiden reading JP for me, command grab super startup is like 12+0.

[Ctrlaltwtf]

I can't like you because you quote yourself like some narcissistic fuck.

Got a problem with that?

12+0 does that include the Jakatsu or just the move itself?

[Guymam]

Probably just the move itself.

[AMB Bakery]

is the 12 part all during super-flash?

[VonFox]

If its 12+0 then it's 12 frames until the super-flash, and then the grab technically hits on the same frame as the flash. So if they're still on the ground during super flash, you got 'em.

[ZeroRaider]

Gonna abuse the shit out of it first weeks.

[Lich]

Why just the first weeks? This is an extremely godlike super that will be blowing people up forever. People are already too afraid to hit buttons because everything in the world is +. On top of different versions of Zaneiga, and Raseinga well.... stance is like 3x as terrifying. lol

[LionHeartx]

also stance, dash, gashou leading to 4k meterless if you know they're mashy lol.

dis goin b good.

[Ctrlaltwtf]

inb4patchmakesitmisscrouchingpeople

[Sharakonta]

Come on man, this aint capcom we're talkin about.

[AMB Bakery]

http://arc-revo-cup.jp/%E5%BA%97%E8%88%97%E4%BA%88%E9%81%B8%E5%A4%A7%E4%BC%9A%E7%B5%90%E6%9E%9C/

I don't get it. Is it only the people with little gold area labels by their name who are qualified for arc revo? Or do they just get special placement in the bracket or what?