Guilty Gear Stories (spoilers abound!)

[Hatred Edge]

Sol became a Gear 60 years before Justice appeared. Apparently during those 60 years was when he was working on the Outrage. That's what? 2070-2080? Then Sol starts his 100 years of battle experience. 2172 Sol leaves the knights. FF 3 years and Sol kills Justice. Some time after that Dizzy pops up....

[Yggdrasill]

you are forgetting that (I believe) Sol and Justice(Formerly Aria) knew each other during the original Gear project. AND in the alt. timeline, where everyone dies, Justice is killed and Dizzy takes over WELL before Justice was sealed.

Edit - I just checked the Timeline on the .RU site and it is marked as ???? for when that happened so I may be wrong.

[Sunnyday]

Also whenever Axl Time Jumps, not only is there a possibility of sucking people around him back in time WITH him (see Jam's AC+ story mode ending), but also he tends to do an equal-mass displacement thingie where something from another time/place gets swapped out for him...like a giant dinosaur or something of that nature.

So in theory, if i stand next to him when he time shifts. than i ended up in the guilty gear age.

AWESOME!!

Well. maybe not i geuss. but i think you can make alot of story's about axl's time shifting. Like some poor thief who trys to pickpocket Axl, on the moment he time shifts xD or something in that dirrection xD.

anyone up for some fan-based story telling?

[Hecatom]

you are forgetting that (I believe) Sol and Justice(Formerly Aria) knew each other during the original Gear project. AND in the alt. timeline, where everyone dies, Justice is killed and Dizzy takes over WELL before Justice was sealed.

Edit - I just checked the Timeline on the .RU site and it is marked as ???? for when that happened so I may be wrong.

the problem is that is only speculation about justice being formerly aria back when justice was human, its not oficialy stated so i will preffer not to take that so seriously.

the only knowed facts are, that dizzy is halfe gear half human, and she is the daugther of justice

[Blade]

It wouldn't be..but Dizzy is a HALF-Gear right? Justice and Sol are both gears. Unless the fornicating happened between when Sol became a gear and Aria became Justice. I don't know.

Honestly, I have no idea where that rumor started about Dizzy being half-human, half-gear. It's unconfirmed first and foremost, in addition to that the only "confirmed" half-human half-gear is Sin right off the bat. (We all know who the human father is).

Sin is not stated as being quarter-gear.

As for Solaria, she was formerly human, but converted to a gear, like Testament and Sol. Although to be more accurate regarding Sol, his human cells slowly converted to Gear Cells over a certain time period.

Sol never directly states himself being a gear...only referring to being the "Prototype" and to having a "Gear Body" (this shortly before transforming into his Gear form in Overture...read Theria's notes/translations to confirm this).

Also keep in mind regarding Sol and the Sekishidan: Sol was a bounty hunter before he was recruited by Kliff...Sol even saved Kliff from a Gear attack when he was just a child, in addition to working on OutRage, somehow several of the Jinki were entrusted to the Sekishidan. (For the record, Dragon Slayer is not a Jinki).

Kliff is stated as having planned on giving Sol Fireseal from the start, regardless of whether he stole the weapon or not, in fact it's the sole reason Kliff recruited Sol from the start...possibly hinting at Kliff's encounter with Sol having remembered such things from childhood. Despite having deserted them though, Kliff still considers Sol to be an unofficial member of the Sekishidan.

And for the last time: JUSTICE BEING ARIA is UNCONFIRMED! Stop spreading rumors!

[Yggdrasill]

I don't spread rumors. I am the victim of rumors. And it states in Dizzy's X2 story mode profile that she is a mix of both gear and human. As for the Aria thing, I didn't know it was a rumor until today, sorry.

[Blade]

PWAB Report as Translated by Ed Chang:

Shuusen Kanrikyoku Report #6690

Name: Dizzy

Height: 167 cm

Weight: 56 kg

Birthday: 12/25 (Presumed)

Bloodtype: Unanaylizable (sic)

Type: Non-Human

The subject's conditions of birth are unknown, but according to uncertain

info she is reported to be half-Gear, half-human.

Including Testament (see Report #3360), all known Gears are Subordinate Types,

and are subject to the command type Justice. Because of this, after the

destruction of Justice, most Gears became inoperational.

The subject does not appear to have that restriction. On the contrary, there

is a possibility that the subject might be able to cause other Gears to become

operational.

Recently, there were witnesses to the fact that the subject was acting

together with the human-type Gear Testament.

The subject was recently reported to have been destroyed by the bounty hunter

Jam, but there is the possibility that this report is false.

Confirming the subject's life or death, and if alive controlling or

destroying the subject is top priority.

Risk Rating: S++

Keep in mind it says "reported to be" not "confirmed", so even then we don't know for sure. "sic" means 'written parenthetically to denote that a word, phrase, passage, etc., that may appear strange or incorrect has been written intentionally or has been quoted verbatim.'

[Yggdrasill]

I know. But I was trying to point out that it isn't a fan-made rumor and that it did come from a canon source.

[Blade]

Doesn't matter if the source if fan-based or canon, if fans twist what is said, it becomes rumor.

[Yggdrasill]

I suppose you're correct, but I still have my point.

[Blade]

Also, regarding Aria, the only things we know so far are these: 1-- Valentine is apparently a clone/copy/decendant of her. 2-- That she had a relationship somehow with Frederick (Sol) and THAT MAN. Regarding how that relates to Justice, Valentine borrowed a key component from Sin's genetic information to unlock "The Cube" found in the backyard which contains Justice's DNA sequence. Hence why she takes a form similar to Justice in appearance. In addition, how this relates to Sin is that Sin's mother is considered a "backup of Justice" or "clone copy".

[Yggdrasill]

Wait. If Sin's mother is a 'Back-up' or 'clone' of Justice, saying that Dizzy is his mother. Wouldn't it be possible for Dizzy not to have a father at all or some such non-sense? I don't know, I haven't read much into Overture yet.

[Blade]

Dizzy being Sin's mother is still as of yet UNCONFIRMED. *breaks out the Unconfirmed Stamp, THUMP!* As for the mother/father relationships, it was only recently discovered Gears could reproduce through natural genetic information transfer (aka SEX). And even then, the familial relationships most gears have with eachother is based on backup/cloning, that is to say if the Justice is the originator and Dizzy the copy, Dizzy considers Justice to be her "surrogate" mother. To complicate this further, if the D-Series were ever created/completed, the relationships each Dizzy clone had would be more or less that of "sisters" referring to the alpha Dizzy as "mother". Gears would be best described as a production series, like generation 1 gears (gears designed as weapons), generation 2 gears (that is to say gears born in the wild), and then finally the hybrids (Sin). As far as clones go though, I'm not even sure a mother and father are even necessary. Just having the complete genome should be enough for a copy.

[Yggdrasill]

Hm. Damned plot-holes and uncertainties. I wish I could fully comprehend what you just posted but I'm pretty tired now. We can only hope that maybe Ishiwatari will maybe release another GG Bible type thing that explains what is missing and what we don't know or something.

[Sunnyday]

wow, i never knew that the story of Guilty gear could be this Complicated... thanks blade for the proper infomation. anyway i wonder about something. first's up is Axl's time shifting. If he can pull others into his time shifting, than Jam isn't the first victim to get suck in. any infomation about other victims that got unlucky when they got caught in axl's time shifting? i just wonder..

[Blade]

Nothing as of yet, BUT...it's been reported that Raven's existence is due in part to his time shifting. Though they have a parallel existence, Raven states Axl as the cause. Raven is stated as being over 1,000 years old to boot. And considering how wide the time jumps can be, Axl may have already been all over the place by now.

[Silmerion]

Nothing as of yet, BUT...it's been reported that Raven's existence is due in part to his time shifting. Though they have a parallel existence, Raven states Axl as the cause.

Raven is stated as being over 1,000 years old to boot. And considering how wide the time jumps can be, Axl may have already been all over the place by now.

I've heard it the other way around; that is, Axl's time-shifting is caused by Raven's existence. Doesn't Faust say something like that in XX?

[Hatred Edge]

Well what I got from it was that Axl and Raven cannot occupy the same space. So, as we've seen numerous times, Axl gets sent through a time warp. Maybe Raven's existence is more powerful than Axl's existence thus resulting in Axl being the one to go through the time warps.

[Dizzy Kiske]

are u sure Ky's wife isn't Dizzy?

[Silmerion]

Well what I got from it was that Axl and Raven cannot occupy the same space. So, as we've seen numerous times, Axl gets sent through a time warp. Maybe Raven's existence is more powerful than Axl's existence thus resulting in Axl being the one to go through the time warps.

This makes sense. I mean, come on! It's fucking Raven! He could probably kill you with his pinky toe!

[sweetvids]

Well what I got from it was that Axl and Raven cannot occupy the same space. So, as we've seen numerous times, Axl gets sent through a time warp. Maybe Raven's existence is more powerful than Axl's existence thus resulting in Axl being the one to go through the time warps.

It's totally Time Cop where if Axl and Raven touch, they both dissappear. As well as back to the future where somewhere along the lines, Axl went back in time had sex with his mom and thus Raven was born.

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

[Wendy]

PWAB Report as Translated by Ed Chang:

Keep in mind it says "reported to be" not "confirmed", so even then we don't know for sure. "sic" means 'written parenthetically to denote that a word, phrase, passage, etc., that may appear strange or incorrect has been written intentionally or has been quoted verbatim.'

I have a speculation: will be a "new" GG where the story surprise us

a game that breaks everything about our beliefs about dizzy, aria, sol, that man and others

This speculation scared me XD

[Blade]

Ed Chang's Translation of "The Encounter"

(vs. I-No)

(Ending 1)

Axl: Calm down, girl...

That Man: It seems my servant has been a problem...

Axl: You're... somebody Chief Sol knows?

That Man: Something like that. You wanted something from me?

Axl: Ah, me, I'm a Time Slip subject. I want to do something about it. You're

like that too, right?

That Man: No, I'm just somebody who lives a long time. I can't surpass

space-time.

Axl: Oh geez, really? I asked a doctor. He said that a "parallel existence"

to me was the cause...

That Man: Ah, in that case I think I know... Raven?

Raven: You're... my...

Axl: Geez, something feels like I'm flying...

That Man: It's only natural. When parallel existences come together, forces

gather. In this space, there are two of "you". Because of that,

one of you cannot be at a fixed point. And one cannot disappear.

Axl: Wwwwhy, is it like that?

Raven: You're saying that?

That Man: Oh, if you ask the cause, it was your fault.

Axl: Eh? What's that?! Waaah!

That Man: Or rather... it will be...

I'd say what Hatred Edge said is quite accurate, and lol at what sweetvids said, that may very well be possible.

In a nutshell: Raven's "Existence" was "born" from Axl's Time Jumping. Conversely, it is because Raven exists that Axl's Time Jumps are triggered. I know that hardly makes sense Chicken or Egg sorta deal, but maybe it'll be explained later.

[Silmerion]

Ed Chang's Translation of "The Encounter"

I'd say what Hatred Edge said is quite accurate, and lol at what sweetvids said, that may very well be possible.

In a nutshell: Raven's "Existence" was "born" from Axl's Time Jumping. Conversely, it is because Raven exists that Axl's Time Jumps are triggered. I know that hardly makes sense Chicken or Egg sorta deal, but maybe it'll be explained later.

The way That Man phrased it makes it sound like Axl will, some time in the future of his delineated time line, create Raven by some action of his own, causing him to appear in the normal time line. This leaves his story open for a great deal of speculation and may even explain why he's dead/MIA in Overture. What if whatever creates Raven kills Axl? What if Raven actually IS Axl?

Side note: I love how Axl refers to Sol as "Chief Sol." I wonder why....

[Hatred Edge]

I think Raven is Axl. If he wasn't why would Axl go through time slips? The theory is that two exact [insert whatever] cannot occupy the same space. If Raven wasn't Axl then what would trigger the time slips? Nothing. And I must admit, it's good to have the story discussion going on again.