Blade Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Flament Nagel was a relic from the Crusades, so yes, this should be obvious that Kliff knew of him. I'm sure Sol knew of him and Ky as well, since there was a lot going on back then.
Lou_Cypher Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Also, regarding the future of Guilty Gear. Something I found on Aksys' website. Secret Voice 7 in Accent Core plus to be exact. http://www.aksysgames.com/ggxxacp/secret/secret_06/ password: ishiwatari "So, if you’re anxious to know what Sol’s up to, please check out our future titles. You will be able to see the theme that we have in mind gradually reveal itself." Overture is talked about later, but the future title...hope?
Zazz Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 "So, if you’re anxious to know what Sol’s up to, please check out our future titles. You will be able to see the theme that we have in mind gradually reveal itself." Overture is talked about later, but the future title...hope? the theme is that sol is turning into a big softy. after 100+ years of "gotta kill all gears" which ends with killing Justice, he then spares diz, has a few (non-fatal) scuffles with testament, raises Sin as his own & works with Dr. P and friends to help out Ky. so his mission is now only "must destroy That Man and his servants . . . and maybe some Gears that are dangerous."
Blade Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Somehow I disagree, Zazz. Sol killed Valentine. Does this need debate? I hope not. Sol has been, for lack of a better definition, something of a Gear Regulator. He keeps (or tries at least) to keep the balance of power in mankind's favor. If someone like Dizzy comes along and proclaims pacifism, he has no need to refuse it, though he is still very cautious around her. The same could be said of Dr. Paradigm and Sin even. When someone like Valentine comes along with extreme behavior that includes both human and Gear genocide which has nothing to do with her true intentions (e.g. getting past the Cube)...then something like that pushes what he has in mind out the window, forcing him to act. It's also part of the reason he hasn't been able to figure out That Man yet. Unless something big happens, it's hard to track the guy he wants down.
Suzaku Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Valentine's also not a Gear and was herself destroying Gears, screwing with Ky, Dizzy, and Sin, and threatening to make massive problems vis-a-vis the Backyard. He also initially thought Valentine was part of That Man's plot. But let's not forget that Sol's a bounty hunter. Disposing Gears is not just part of a personal creed, it's his profession, and Sin's as well. He seems to draw the line at non-threatening sentient Gears, is all.
Zazz Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 But let's not forget that Sol's a bounty hunter. Disposing Gears is not just part of a personal creed, it's his profession, and Sin's as well. i'm was just making a note of his final battle with Justice where he says: "We were forged by the will of greedy human beings. And so, we're nothing more than a symbol of all that's wrong with the world. For that reason . . . I will never stop until I've destroyed every Gear." then Diz comes along and he's suddenly all "Ok maybe not EVERY Gear . . . " perhaps its because peaceful Gears, such as Diz and even Dr. P, no longer reflect the violent ambitions of the humans who made Gears as the ultimate living super weapons
Lou_Cypher Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Well think of it this way. The Gears Sol destroyed are ones manufactured by humans. Dizzy wasn't necessarily created by a human, Justice did...I think. The D-series that Crow would have created are probably going to be 'evil' to.
Blade Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 I like to think that there is a subspecies beyond Gear that is both magical being in essence and humanoid. While Sol destroys gears that behave as weapons, the definition of that changed when he met Dr. Paradigm (irony ensues), Paradigm was manufactured but when Justice was disabled and then eventually killed, he no longer had the means to function in terms of self-preservation...at first. Two things to consider: 1. Gears have the potential to develop cognitive capability regardless of their species form or initial programming. What sort of interval of time it takes for an incapacitated Gear to become cognitive and develop things like speech pattern, self-preservation, self-education, etc etc...is unknown. 2. Dizzy is unique in that she has the ability to "revive" downed Gears, this was not said of Justice or any other Gear (not even Sol). Not much has been stated regarding this ability. Whether it is pure resurrection or re-activation or perhaps even total reprogramming, we aren't sure. Not to mention we have nothing to go on regarding what Sin is exactly. While he is "classified" as a Gear...it can't be truly said he is "all Gear". What's more...we know nothing about Dizzy's composition as the so-called "half-human-half-Gear". Another thing to ponder is the idea that Sol refers only to his "body" as Gear...not his mind or spirit or anything else. We don't know what the end results portend to.
Lou_Cypher Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Also, little tidbit in Ky's story...the good ending. Right before Crow attacks him and Dizzy with the Justice copy he says something along the lines of, "blahblah....Retained the resonant component. Impressive for a copy..." Now, it looks like he was talking about Dizzy at that time. Ooh....
danceljoy Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Also, little tidbit in Ky's story...the good ending. Right before Crow attacks him and Dizzy with the Justice copy he says something along the lines of, "blahblah....Retained the resonant component. Impressive for a copy..." Now, it looks like he was talking about Dizzy at that time. Ooh.... yeah I remember that. I was also confused in this part Justice: Target blah... Dizzy: M-Mother... Ky: It can't be! Justice was sealed! Wasn't it supposed to be "Justice was killed!?" If not, it could be interpreted as Ky thinking Justice being Dizzy's mom is impossible.
Lou_Cypher Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 I think Ky just didn't know Justice was destroyed by Sol. Then again, he did meet Justice after she 'killed' Kliff. Perhaps he thought she was re-sealed?
danceljoy Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 I think Ky just didn't know Justice was destroyed by Sol. Then again, he did meet Justice after she 'killed' Kliff. Perhaps he thought she was re-sealed? But Ky knows Justice's semi-last words "The Gears will never disappear, as long as That Man lives..." LOL I found 2:10 onwards to be related to GG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYluMdrXxDU
Dizzy Kiske Posted May 31, 2009 Author Posted May 31, 2009 i wish Millia was in the next guilty gear too I kinda wanna know what happened to the others in the GG cast anyways: http://nagisa-furukawa.deviantart.com/art/Midnight-Assassin-124171374 my next one has :KY: and in the rain. it's a treat for the KyxDizzy fans ^_^ i have a baby sin one coming up too ^_^ BTW~!!! does anyone have scans for the Guilty Gear 10th Memorial Artbook?? like ALL the scans??
danceljoy Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 i wish Millia was in the next guilty gear too I kinda wanna know what happened to the others in the GG cast anyways: http://nagisa-furukawa.deviantart.com/art/Midnight-Assassin-124171374 my next one has :KY: and in the rain. it's a treat for the KyxDizzy fans ^_^ i have a baby sin one coming up too ^_^ BTW~!!! does anyone have scans for the Guilty Gear 10th Memorial Artbook?? like ALL the scans?? Ir's nice but this thread is not for fanarts. I encourage you to start your own so others can comment on it.
Zazz Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 dancel did you post another sad fic? its so very AWWWWWWW ;_;
danceljoy Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 dancel did you post another sad fic? its so very AWWWWWWW ;_; Oh you read it!? Hehe drama is just my talent, :sweatdrop:but I'LL POST SOMETHING HAPPY!!! i didn't post it here because it was sad. Hope you reviewed.
Lou_Cypher Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Ooh! Ooh! Post a hurt/comfort fic! (Preferrably Ky and Millia but...Ky and Dizzy is still good of course.)
danceljoy Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Ooh! Ooh! Post a hurt/comfort fic! (Preferrably Ky and Millia but...Ky and Dizzy is still good of course.) Of course I'll try to muster up some inspiration... I'm actually wanting to do a KyxMilliaxVenom drama, not romance but I'm still pledged to a happy KyxDizzy. But let's see... I really want to write happy romances, but either drama or crack humor comes to my mind. I have little moderation. Oh Please, LEAVE A REVIEW People wouldn't dig my fic if it has none.
Blade Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 I prefer historical drama fics myself. Like a certain event triggers blah blah blah in the Crusades and blah blah blah have to investigate the phenomenon etc etc freakish battle ensues. Of course, nobody likes writing good battle stories, anyone I know anyway.
Lou_Cypher Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 danceljoy, your fic re-did my muse again. (Psst, I'm getting Kotomine Kirei to act as a priest for Ky and Dizzy...what? There's nothing wrong with that...Servants can get 'married' right?)
danceljoy Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 I prefer historical drama fics myself. Like a certain event triggers blah blah blah in the Crusades and blah blah blah have to investigate the phenomenon etc etc freakish battle ensues. Of course, nobody likes writing good battle stories, anyone I know anyway. Well, from experience, one can write best the fics that he/she likes best. That's my case, I love drama, romance etc, melodramatic stuff and societal issues. ISSUES. So I would love to read a fic from you with your theories danceljoy, your fic re-did my muse again. (Psst, I'm getting Kotomine Kirei to act as a priest for Ky and Dizzy...what? There's nothing wrong with that...Servants can get 'married' right?) Oh thanks... Kirei Kotomine? Isn't he evil? He would bring bad luck to the couple. I don't like him Regardless, Ky and Dizzy should marry, even in secret Hmmmm.....Actually, I am thinking of Ky Kiske meeting Sousuke Sagara, that would be interesting
Lou_Cypher Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Kirei Kotomine? Isn't he evil? I don't like him If you can name another priest who knows about Servants in the fifth Holy Grail War and is somewhat close to the main characters, I'd gladly use them...but right now, Kotomine.
danceljoy Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 If you can name another priest who knows about Servants in the fifth Holy Grail War and is somewhat close to the main characters, I'd gladly use them...but right now, Kotomine. Hmmm, never played FSN, and still don't get it. You write fanfics right? Where can I read them? And also, any suggestions for a happy Ky and Dizzy?
Lou_Cypher Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Hmmm, never played FSN, and still don't get it. You write fanfics right? Where can I read them? And also, any suggestions for a happy Ky and Dizzy? You can read my fanfics here: http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1402992/Cypher0120 (They haven't been updated in a while though.) Also, happy Ky/Dizzy? Hmmm...that's still hard to do given the fact that the political situation at the time regarding Gears is a bit iffy...
danceljoy Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Oh I've read them! I thought that it was a different person back then. Please update :D A happy fic...I'm also thinking of an AU, Ky could be a cop and Dizzy could be a college student. Sol would be a professor/ Dizzy's dad, I-No a rocker, Millia as a model...too many ideas my head hurts:psyduck:
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