BlackYakuzu94 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I just really adapt to whatever the opponent does and blow them up for it; netplayers are pretty transparent when it comes to playstyles, so its not exactly difficult to pick them apart once you got them down.
TD Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Joined a room called "be gentle please" (some people should know where this is going...) First match, picks amane. I do one teeny 46-hit combo and the guys immediately gives up. I say teeny because amane hits like a pansy without resources - I believe the combo only did 1.7k No tech, no button mashing... Idle for 10 seconds at a time each time he got comboed. Guess it's my fault for joining a room like this, but... Why? We are suppose to be beating each other's faces in, not being nice and gentle. Want gentle, fight the cpu? I was so confused and a little angry even though it's not so serious. Just never seen this mentality before.
Koga_Noid Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 People that cry "tryhard" whenever I do stuff like IAD ID, etc. On a more recent note, I had a friend pick up Ultimax since it was on sale and he's having a bit of a rough time. I used to beat on him back in Vanilla where I wasn't that good and this morning he was kinda whining about how he can't win no matter how hard he tries and he can't come to me for advice cause he'll already know what I'll say: You're coming into a game that's almost a year old and most people know how to play Getting good at FG's doesn't happen overnight, or in a few days, even longer if you're just now getting out of the button mashing casual phase(which is where he's in)
mAc Chaos Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Joined a room called "be gentle please" (some people should know where this is going...) First match, picks amane. I do one teeny 46-hit combo and the guys immediately gives up. I say teeny because amane hits like a pansy without resources - I believe the combo only did 1.7k No tech, no button mashing... Idle for 10 seconds at a time each time he got comboed. Guess it's my fault for joining a room like this, but... Why? We are suppose to be beating each other's faces in, not being nice and gentle. Want gentle, fight the cpu? I was so confused and a little angry even though it's not so serious. Just never seen this mentality before. That happens a lot. Guy gets hit by random move he decided isn't allowed in his imagination and he just puts down the controller.
StylisH Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Where do people get all these unspoken rules about how someone else plays? Short of cheating, the object is to win. If you can't block high, I'm using overheads. If you can't deal with zoning, I'm throwing up projectiles left and right. Stop trying to tell people how to play a game they paid for
TD Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I would like to know too. It's a bit sad how misguided some people can be. Poor chap probably just needed help and doesn't know where to turn. Then again, how many more fish in the sea have this problem. Can't help them all.
susano Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Kinda like how a Hakumen just gives up and rqs on me when he kept jumping into Nu/Lambda drives all day. Also, my newest pet peeve - people who interrupt sets you're about to have against someone in the lobby. I'm looking at you ms.green_jeans.
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 i just have to complain about all the Nu's that think IADing back all the time is a legit strategy and not AAing instead. I just kill them all with Rel, Jin or Terumi anyways, but ffs, just stop, you'll just die faster
BlackYakuzu94 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 That happens a lot. Guy gets hit by random move he decided isn't allowed in his imagination and he just puts down the controller. I literally fought a Noel who RQ'd after getting hit by Yukikaze. Like yo what the fuck, is it really my fault when you activate a counter move. I know casuals like to play the game their own way and nobody likes to lose, but I feel like people who play these games just want wins handed to them. God forbid you actually give them a challenge.....
Errol Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Kinda like how a Hakumen just gives up and rqs on me when he kept jumping into Nu/Lambda drives all day. Also, my newest pet peeve - people who interrupt sets you're about to have against someone in the lobby. I'm looking at you ms.green_jeans. you're talking about what may be literally the worst matchup in this game.
mAceOfHearts Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 you're talking about what may be literally the worst matchup in this game. Not an excuse. And I doubt that it's the worst. Haku's IAD covers an extremely large amount of distance. When fighting zoners, this is a huge deal.
Raziul Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Not an excuse. And I doubt that it's the worst. Haku's IAD covers an extremely large amount of distance. When fighting zoners, this is a huge deal. Hakumen also has one of the longest lasting (slowest) air dashes in the game. I can't express to you how often I get j.B when I go to barrier after a dash because of its length. This usually leads to easy pick ups off of Nu swords.
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Not an excuse. And I doubt that it's the worst. Haku's IAD covers an extremely large amount of distance. When fighting zoners, this is a huge deal. black orb things can also be useful again Nyuu and Lambda. But that's DEFINITELY NOT the worst MU in the game EDIT: I'm pretty sure he can even use his Ds to not get stuck in Nu's Ds, also, he can counter out of 5DD>4DD for free
StylisH Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 you're talking about what may be literally the worst matchup in this game. Tager and Arakune are still in the cast my friend
Poultrygeist Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 you're talking about what may be literally the worst matchup in this game. Well if you can't deal with your character's bad matchups, don't pick them.
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Tager and Arakune are still in the cast my friend You saying against Nu? As in, Nu vs Tager/Ara? Cuz Tager beats Nu now
BlackYakuzu94 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Hakumen vs. Nu is infuriatingly difficult, but its not his worst matchup, I'd still rather fight her than Tao. The former just requires an insane amount of patience and good reads.
Henjin Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 i just have to complain about all the Nu's that think IADing back all the time is a legit strategy and not AAing instead. I just kill them all with Rel, Jin or Terumi anyways, but ffs, just stop, you'll just die faster I find it soooo annoying when im Azrael and a nu/lambda retreats to use D moves. I have NEVER won against anyone who focuses on hardcore zoning when i play as him. I mostly find my self resting my fingers when ppl do nothing but spam projectiles and long range anti airs. (Similar to puting my controller down)
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I find it soooo annoying when im Azrael and a nu/lambda retreats to use D moves. I have NEVER won against anyone who focuses on hardcore zoning when i play as him. I mostly find my self resting my fingers when ppl do nothing but spam projectiles and long range anti airs. (Similar to puting my controller down) Well, tbh, if they are...... not that "good", then you can just rush 'em down like i told you before, but Az's dash ain't the best for that, well, you can dash through projectiles, but lol, netplay. About about Haku vs. Nu, you can either sit on the other side of the screen and DIE, or you could try to get in, out smart the player, but still Haku's dash. like, can't you just 623A through the projectile and move forward in the process? Like, Haku can kill Nu once he's in cuz lol, that dmg, that health. Like, just go to training mode and find things that can be useful against her Ds, like, to stop them. And remember, you can 236236D 5DD>4DD for free
BlackYakuzu94 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 About about Haku vs. Nu, you can either sit on the other side of the screen and DIE, or you could try to get in, out smart the player, but still Haku's dash. like, can't you just 623A through the projectile and move forward in the process? Like, Haku can kill Nu once he's in cuz lol, that dmg, that health. Like, just go to training mode and find things that can be useful against her Ds, like, to stop them. And remember, you can 236236D 5DD>4DD for free Kishuu lost its projectile invulnerability in extend, so no you can't just dash through for free anymore. And Hakumen doesn't exactly have the best mixup, so its pretty easy for Nu to just block and dash backwards. Its really not as easy as you're making it sound, trust me.
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Kishuu lost its projectile invulnerability in extend, so no you can't just dash through for free anymore. And Hakumen doesn't exactly have the best mixup, so its pretty easy for Nu to just block and dash backwards. Its really not as easy as you're making it sound, trust me. well, im no haku main......................... atleast haku can kill "bad" Nu's easily
someonewhodied Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Nu main knowledge bomb lesgo. Worst matchups right now according to most nu's: Hazama / Bang Tager Litchi/Lambda Ragna Worst ones IMO: Hazama/Bang Lambda Kokonoe Tao in that order. Hazama and Bang do not need to commit to any movement. They are also anti-zoner just by design. Before hazama chains outranged nu swords. Now they have the same range and speed. But Hazama can move when his drives whiff. Nu can't. Tager IMO isn't even all that bad but people insist its in his favor, like really in his favor. Litchi i never had an issue with but based on other people its in her favor. Lambda only has the advantage because her specials start at lv2 projectiles while nu's dont and her drives stay in lv2 much longer than nu's. You can punish nu drives on reaction with lambda. Ragna has a slightly above even matchup vs Nu apparently. N-O himself has chosen ragna as his character for Rachel's bad MUs(AKA most of the cast) and has said its easy for ragna. Kokonoe can teleport between 4DD>5DD and can punish you if she has a graviton on the other side of the screen with that teleport. She also has the ability to keep nu locked down forever off of any knockdown. Tao is just tao. Fuck tao. Her voice is a 10-0 matchup against me. Annoying. Now the problem we're talking about. Nu vs Hakumen This matchup is complete shit for hakumen. He can not do shit about nu's oki. Like Hakumen can not counter projectiles for a free meter and he can't grab you if he counters a projectile. All nu has to do is 3C knockdown into reverse sickle oki and laugh as hakumen cries every time. As for neutral, nu drive speedup and 2D shrinking her vertically even further than before, IADs are bad in this matchup. Nu's drives pierce now so the orb doesn't do shit. Hakumen doesn't get a large reward off of his main 3C counter combo anymore so that doesn't help at all.
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 SWD, explain why Ragna is even or whatever? And the staff, just syaing :V EDIT: idk if i'd call Litchi a bad MU or just an annoying one
someonewhodied Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 SWD, explain why Ragna is even or whatever? And the staff, just syaing :V Ragna is fast and gets the reward he needs off of his pokes. He also has access to a fast DP so he can OS crossups with a 421ABC input so we have less options to open him up. And CS during OD raid is good. Its definitely a boring matchup that tests the patience of both players though.
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