Zedar90 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 It was through the Library in BBCP that I finally understood what the Life-Link was. But the problem is that it should have been explained earlier in CS were it became a plot point. It doesn't help for the english players that the Library was removed for them.
Zedar90 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Life-Link To share life with a specific life form. If one side dies but the other side still lives, "death" can't be observed and recognized. As long as the other partner lives one will be in a half-immortal state. Because of this, those with a life-link can't be killed as long as both isn't killed at the same time. Â Currently those with a life-link is, Ragna the Bloodedge and Nu -no.13-, Hazama and Noel Vermilion.
Madness4455 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 A life-link doesn't stop one from dying, it only makes one not to remain dead, as can be seen in Relius arcade in CS. Hakumen could have easily got rid of Nu's corpse by throwing her into the boundary since the cauldron was open and thus make the life-link useless. He did in CT. He told Ragna that she is in the far side of the Boundary or something, implying that he might have tossed her body inside the Cauldron.
CosmicShadow99 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 It's never stated if it does or not, but I don't think it does. A life-link makes it so as long as one in the link is alive, the other remains alive. That could extend even to time. As long as one of the partners time is "alive" so should the other also be considered as alive. So to kill someone with a life-link with time-killer, both partners should be killed with time-killer. Â Life-Link To share life with a specific life form. If one side dies but the other side still lives, "death" can't be observed and recognized. As long as the other partner lives one will be in a half-immortal state. Because of this, those with a life-link can't be killed as long as both isn't killed at the same time. Â Currently those with a life-link is, Ragna the Bloodedge and Nu -no.13-, Hazama and Noel Vermilion. Â So then if that's true, how did Noel not die? Since Hakumen killed Terumi and by extension Hazama using Time Killer didn't he? Noel should have died with Hazama if that were true.
Zedar90 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 So then if that's true, how did Noel not die? Since Hakumen killed Terumi and by extension Hazama using Time Killer didn't he? Noel should have died with Hazama if that were true. Who is there to say that Hazama is dead? All that is know is that he is missing. Also when one of the partners with Life Link dies doesn't mean that the other partner dies. It only means that the one who died should be revived. Now if Hazma has a consciousness or not when he is revived is another problem.
Master Of Chaos Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 You're misunderstanding. He means that you'd have to use time killer on both for them to actually die permanently. Â It's also unclear as far as to what actually happened to Hazama, but it's reasonable to think that he may still be alive. Â Edit: Woops, Ninja'd.Â
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 So then if that's true, how did Noel not die? Since Hakumen killed Terumi and by extension Hazama using Time Killer didn't he? Noel should have died with Hazama if that were true. Obviously it means Hazama might still be alive. Ok, we know what a life link is, do we know how one established? So far, it seems to be related to the Black Beast because both pairs that have lifelinks have an Azure Grimoire and are a Murakumo respectively. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Master Of Chaos Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 How it's established seems to be the million dollar question, one that no one has the answer to.Â
13thPhantom Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 this may seem strange to me but. didn't you guys think that the life-link is established between a murakumo unit and a azure grimoire user!? so far i only seen ragna(Azure grimoire user) and nu(the unit) and then we got Hazama and noel. Â what do i mean that...a life-link is kinda necessary to create the beast so that's why it is only established between the units and the grimoire users. Â also...do you guys think that there is a grimoire for each unit!? like there is 13 azure grimoires for the 13 units!?Â
Shinhwa Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Now that I think about it, I feel like the Kazuma voice clips weren't just there for show. But who knows it might have been just rejected afterwards.
Cerotech Omega Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 You know, that begs the question: how does one SEVER a lifelink? There has to be some element that serves as an antimatter to the equation, to ensure that one side of it stays dead. I wonder if the Izayoi has anything to do with that... or if Mori is keeping things from us on purpose.
BlackJustin13 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 A life-link doesn't stop one from dying, it only makes one not to remain dead, as can be seen in Relius arcade in CS. Hakumen could have easily got rid of Nu's corpse by throwing her into the boundary since the cauldron was open and thus make the life-link useless. Â A life-link doesn't stop one from dying, it only makes one not to remain dead, as can be seen in Relius arcade in CS. Hakumen could have easily got rid of Nu's corpse by throwing her into the boundary since the cauldron was open and thus make the life-link useless. Nu fell into the Cauldron at the true end of CT and look how well that worked in terms of killing her off.
Tokkan Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Nu fell into the Cauldron at the true end of CT and look how well that worked in terms of killing her off. Â Yeah but she survived out of pure will, not because of the life-link.
BlackJustin13 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Obviously it means Hazama might still be alive. Ok, we know what a life link is, do we know how one established? So far, it seems to be related to the Black Beast because both pairs that have lifelinks have an Azure Grimoire and are a Murakumo respectively. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  So then if that's true, how did Noel not die? Since Hakumen killed Terumi and by extension Hazama using Time Killer didn't he? Noel should have died with Hazama if that were true. I can't quite recall,but I was certain that towards the end of CS Hazama stopped using the life link with Noel and switched to Saya/Izanami. I might be wrong,but that's what I think may have happened.
Tokkan Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 I can't quite recall,but I was certain that towards the end of CS Hazama stopped using the life link with Noel and switched to Saya/Izanami. I might be wrong,but that's what I think may have happened. Â That's wrong; he didn't switch life-link, he just switched observers. Izanami was observing him instead of Noel.
Master Of Chaos Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 You know, that begs the question: how does one SEVER a lifelink? There has to be some element that serves as an antimatter to the equation, to ensure that one side of it stays dead. I wonder if the Izayoi has anything to do with that... or if Mori is keeping things from us on purpose. Â I don't think that there's an actual way to completely sever a life-link, but if one of the targets falls outside of the Master Unit's observation, then it won't take effect. Such as when Nu fell into the boundary at the end of CT. Â It also seems to be connected to the "bodies" rather than the "souls," because even though Nu's soul was put inside Lambda's body in CS, the life-link was considered null until Nu fully revived in CP. Â
Zedar90 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Just one thing, the observation didn't go from Noel to Izanami, it went from Takamagahara to Izanami. Noel didn't observe Terumi like Kokonoe and Rachel observes Hakumen. What Noel did was that she recognized Hazama as the Black Susanoo. By doing this, Terumi could finally merge better with Hazama. It had really nothing to do with keeping Terumi in the present world.
Tokkan Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Just one thing, the observation didn't go from Noel to Izanami, it went from Takamagahara to Izanami. Noel didn't observe Terumi like Kokonoe and Rachel observes Hakumen. What Noel did was that she recognized Hazama as the Black Susanoo. By doing this, Terumi could finally merge better with Hazama. It had really nothing to do with keeping Terumi in the present world. Â Eh, but IIRC the way Takamagahara spoke of it implied that Noel, as Mu-12, was observing Terumi but after Ragna saved her she stopped doing that.
Zedar90 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Eh, but IIRC the way Takamagahara spoke of it implied that Noel, as Mu-12, was observing Terumi but after Ragna saved her she stopped doing that. At least the LN says that it went from Takamagahara to Izanami. Â Terumi: Thanks to your cooperation, I have been able to neutrlize takamagahara. Rachel: Neutrulize Takamagahara you say? That's nonsense. Your exsitance is suppoused to be fixated on this world due to Takamagahara's observation. If takamagahara is sealed, then you will... Terumi: That is a little wrong, I don't have to be observed by Takamagahara... I can be observed by something similar or above it. Do you understand. Rachel: It can't be, is she observing you...!? Terumi: Correct
Toxin45 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 So about the arcade modes for Lambda and Celica.The Former takes place after the true ending of CP and Ragna is inside the embryo.
13thPhantom Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 wow. now you caught me interested. got any videos!? please!?
raziel12 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) i found only videos of the ending for both  from chao; you can find them on youtube Edited October 11, 2014 by Chaoschao222 ArcCops and whatnot
Madness4455 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Moving on. Does anybody have any guess on Azrael's species? Part of me believes he is Superhuman.
Master Of Chaos Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 It was already stated several times that Azrael is human.Also, superhuman isn't a species.
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