[FB] Gundam EXVS Simple Q&A Thread - Ask Anything!

[burgerkong]

Not true. If you are close to the ground you should be abusing the green landing system. Try look at some nico videos. I have seen pro players abuse the landing system mid range like that

 

Do you mind explaining what this is?  Never heard of it O___O

 

Dunno what this could mean aside from getting underneath the opponent to get in their green lock?  But then you're basically right next to them, so I'm not sure...

[KiraYamatoSF]

I was using my Ipad, sorry.
If you land on green boost you literally can move almost immediately. 
A lot of pro players use this as a tactic to get near enemy or play as front mid range. 
For example Wing Zero TV or S.Freedom players. 
They dash near ground level and land as much as they can.
Unless the enemy has shoot sth from a distance before you land. There is literally little to no way to hit you mid range like that.

What he was talking about was how enemy predicted his landing. That was why he felt like he kept getting hit whenever he wanted to land.

Just make sure you can land safely next time. 

You can also use shield almost immediately after landing with green boost. 
If someone did shoot sth at you and you felt like it is going to hit you, you can always try to spam down up and try to block it. (It works most of the time for me unless i am lagging)
 

Try to use swerving more when you are close to the ground too. You can dodge most of the enemy fire by swerving. I literally do this all the time. Fly near ground >swerving>Land with green or yellow boost.

Everytime i do a BR>DASH>BR i always add in swerving. 
swervingBR>DASH+swerving>BR

 

[crimsonstardust]

What's sth short for? I see you mention it a couple of times.

[KiraYamatoSF]

something

[Opter]

Edit: nevermind, I misread the newbie guide. Next question!

 

I'd really like to get into either the Kai or perhaps even the XM-05. Is there a general guide on playing 1k suits (and thus rear guard)? 

[burgerkong]

Edit: nevermind, I misread the newbie guide. Next question!

 

I'd really like to get into either the Kai or perhaps even the XM-05. Is there a general guide on playing 1k suits (and thus rear guard)? 

 

1k suits are actually rarely rear guards.  You are usually playing as a front along with a 2.5k partner.  

 

You can't really play a dedicated rear role since your team will have less firepower than a team involving a 3k, and you'll just lose in a conventional neutral game.

 

Rather than hanging behind your partner, you should be on the frontlines with your partner.  You have to wary of dying twice before your partner does though, since you're fairly fragile.

 

2.5k-1k is a good team comp for stability purposes, since  the 2.5k doesn't get overcosted unless you're really reckless and die twice.  This leaves you with 3.5 lives in total, which is a significant amount of Burst & HP to work with.

 

Basically, since you have so many lives, you're looking to trade health with your opponents and win in a damage race.  Since there's less risk of overcost compared to teams with a 3000, there's less chance of getting screwed unless you die twice before your partner does.

 

Unfortunately I only play Ez8 for 1ks, so I can't really help you on the suit specifics

[Opter]

1k suits are actually rarely rear guards.  You are usually playing as a front along with a 2.5k partner.  

 

Thanks for the answer! I'll be sure to adjust my play next time. 

[Super Phoenix]

When I'm playing online, I find it incredibly hard to hit people. Like I'm almost never in range to punish someone on landing, and usually whenever I'm in range they just punish me or melee me. What can I do to prevent that?

[crimsonstardust]

When I'm playing online, I find it incredibly hard to hit people. Like I'm almost never in range to punish someone on landing, and usually whenever I'm in range they just punish me or melee me. What can I do to prevent that?

Well there are things like making sure you at least have a red target sight when your try to get a hit in, that indicates your at least close enough to hit them. Getting hit when I land is something I'm still working on myself but things that help would be to try to avoid overheating, do things like side step (tapping a direction twice) before landing, or just side step a lot when your grounded, and try to land away from your opponents.

[IdlersGame]

First post,and I can already see a few names I've played with, belated apologies for my poor play.

So I feel like finding a new suit to learn, and Throne Drei is a suit that has a fun vibe to it. Its a curve to learn though. Other than timing GN Stealth correctly, are there any other key tips for playing the suit? I'm letting down partners with mediocre play even though playing rear like I do Delta Plus feels like the right thing.

[burgerkong]

First post,and I can already see a few names I've played with, belated apologies for my poor play.

So I feel like finding a new suit to learn, and Throne Drei is a suit that has a fun vibe to it. Its a curve to learn though. Other than timing GN Stealth correctly, are there any other key tips for playing the suit? I'm letting down partners with mediocre play even though playing rear like I do Delta Plus feels like the right thing.

 

From what I can tell from a quick glance at the JP wiki, Throne Drei is a fairly simple suit.  Most of your neutral game revolves around your standard BR & CSA, with 5Sub (Eins gerobi) and dir+AC (Zwei rush) being your best assists.

 

Her firepower is lower than that of many other ranged suits primarily because her assists have excruciatingly long reloads (20s), so you really have to make the most of them.

 

What differentiates her from other all-purpose suits is her BC, so you really have to maximize it if you want to get the most out of Throne Drei.  That being said, you obviously have to have a competent (and ideally a 3000 cost) partner to make the most of it, so it might not be the best suit for random shuffle play.

[Densuo]

When I'm playing online, I find it incredibly hard to hit people. Like I'm almost never in range to punish someone on landing, and usually whenever I'm in range they just punish me or melee me. What can I do to prevent that?

What suit?

For me I find with machine guns I must move forward.

[Densuo]

First post,and I can already see a few names I've played with, belated apologies for my poor play.

So I feel like finding a new suit to learn, and Throne Drei is a suit that has a fun vibe to it. Its a curve to learn though. Other than timing GN Stealth correctly, are there any other key tips for playing the suit? I'm letting down partners with mediocre play even though playing rear like I do Delta Plus feels like the right thing.

For Gn stealth. Hold 2 before activating to keep you lower.

During the gn stealth you can call an assist to take a hit for you. Look at positioning of your partner. Is he about to go In? Proper usage is crucial. But you can also bait with it.

Gerobis are her biggest issue imo Everytime I face a Nena the instant I see the ring on her partner and said partner ain't after me I am switching locks and instantly firing a gerobi at her.

Make sure to take cover to get that extra bit of time.

I usually use the gn stealth for about 2 seconds and bolt.

Edit: consider modifying your custom quick chat to say "stealth up" to let your partner know when to go in hard.

[IdlersGame]

From what I can tell from a quick glance at the JP wiki, Throne Drei is a fairly simple suit.  Most of your neutral game revolves around your standard BR & CSA, with 5Sub (Eins gerobi) and dir+AC (Zwei rush) being your best assists.

 

Her firepower is lower than that of many other ranged suits primarily because her assists have excruciatingly long reloads (20s), so you really have to make the most of them.

 

What differentiates her from other all-purpose suits is her BC, so you really have to maximize it if you want to get the most out of Throne Drei.  That being said, you obviously have to have a competent (and ideally a 3000 cost) partner to make the most of it, so it might not be the best suit for random shuffle play.

 

 

For Gn stealth. Hold 2 before activating to keep you lower.

During the gn stealth you can call an assist to take a hit for you. Look at positioning of your partner. Is he about to go In? Proper usage is crucial. But you can also bait with it.

Gerobis are her biggest issue imo Everytime I face a Nena the instant I see the ring on her partner and said partner ain't after me I am switching locks and instantly firing a gerobi at her.

Make sure to take cover to get that extra bit of time.

I usually use the gn stealth for about 2 seconds and bolt.

Edit: consider modifying your custom quick chat to say "stealth up" to let your partner know when to go in hard.

 

Thank you and thank you. I'll try staying slightly lower when I GN stealth, but I noticed I buy a LOT of time to run it for myself if I try to boost up as high as possible and then use it. I do risk getting knocked out of the sky by a BR or gerobi, but not before my partner has done serious damage to both opponents. I didn't know that I could still call assists so that's nice for the future. At the very least I can defend myself maintaining the death order if my partner goes down first.

[Densuo]

I'd say its better to stay low. Land faster. Getaway faster. Be sure to test your assist so you can confirm which assists are actually able to block for you. Last thing you need is calling the wrong assist wasting ammo and getting hit anyway.

As you know even when overheat. Just press bc to get outta gn stealth

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[Opter]

Unfortunately, most of the suits I like to play use MGs. It seems that Mgs really don't have any redeeming values. Are suits with MGs at an objective disadvantage or am I missing something?

[Irysa]

MG vary in terms of their strengh, and you have to use them differently. You also have to consider that most suits with MG have other extremely powerful tools to balance out the lack of a beam rifle. You should list the suits you're using because different MG suits have different kinds of reliance on their machineguns, and all have different points at the amount of bullets required to stagger/knock down.

 

When you fire a MG spray you generally want to be boosting, starting to fire, then jumping whilst continuing to fire whilst jumping. This creates a big long wave of bullets that can effectively cover an opponent for the same amount of time as firing 2 or 3 beam rifle shots for much less boost, and leaves you free to preform other actions once your string of bullets has ended. However confirming those bullets into a knockdown is pretty difficult for a lot of suits so you're trading off your ability to quickly stun and convert for a low commital string of pressure. It's also a lot more risky to block machinegun fire since you'll be stuck in blockstun for a long time, and many suits can basiaclly unblockable you for free if you begin blocking a string of bullets.

 

I seem to remember you play Bernie's Zaku so in his case his MG isn't even his main weapon, its simply something he can pepper the opponent with to create pressure or to cut combos. His primary tool is his sub, the grenade toss, which is his main tool for actually hitting people.

[IdlersGame]

How do you beat a really bad slump? I'm trying to expand my suit usage beyond ZZ, Delta Plus and Sinanju, and trying suits that have seemingly decent qualities for what they are (GunEZ, Blue Frame, Justice) find me losing the last 65 of 80 matches (not even joking),and all of those wins took strong partner play. I have no ranked experience due to an inability to find matches, and I'm starting to lose my faith in playing a game as good as this. I've read the suit pages, practiced using suits on my own, but when I try to apply it online, I get completely stomped. Any advice for a struggling beginner is absolutely appreciated, I feel like Gabby Jay from Punch Out.

[billngjp]

It's always helpful to watch your own replays from the opponent's perspective and see where you went wrong. Also as far as ranked goes, if you have a yellow connection or higher you should be able to find some matches, just might take 1-5 minutes. You could also download some high ranking replays and analyze their play. Alot of it comes down to experience, the more you play the more you will start recognizing when you can and cant shoot and how you should be moving. Have hope! Everyone was once a struggling beginner.

[Densuo]

Unfortunately, most of the suits I like to play use MGs. It seems that Mgs really don't have any redeeming values. Are suits with MGs at an objective disadvantage or am I missing something?

With the exception of X Divider as his is best mg I find moving forward in 123 direction helps me land mg more. Especially on Bernie Zaku and Alex

[akai_GO]

I have no ranked experience due to an inability to find matches, and I'm starting to lose my faith in playing a game as good as this.

 

I'm not sure if you're talking about ranked team or ranked shuffle, but I'd be happy to suffer through some matches with you, but...I live in Japan, so time difference ><

 

I play almost exclusively ranked shuffle (due to not having a regular teammate), but I didn't start playing the game online period until 2.5-3 months ago, and I have like a 47% overall win rate (granted a lot of that has been playing rear).

 

I've said this in a couple places now: actually I found in the beginning ranked was much easier to slide into than player matches. In player match rooms in the beginning it seemed like I constantly wound up in rooms with people way above my skill level and would just get stomped, but ranked you're (almost) only ever going to fight someone that is the same badge rank as you. Unless...that's something that is true only in Japan and I have no idea otherwise o_O I'm not sure I've ever had something admittedly as rough and frustrating as 15/80, but I think if I'd kept trying player match in the beginning instead of ranked it could have happened to me lol.

 

That's my 2c on it, as someone who has played the game and series for a while now, but didn't start trying to play it against people until a few months ago. It was trying at first, but my game has leaps and bound improved from it. I'm not sure there's anything really to do other than to just keep playing to keep improving, and yeah, watching your own replays can help you more easily see if there are some common tendencies you have that seem to continuously get punished. Oh, that and I think it's easier to ease into the online game playing as a rear than a front.

 

If you want a team partner on the weekends (since I'm sure the time difference will prevent otherwise) feel free to hit me up :P

[Densuo]

How do you beat a really bad slump? I'm trying to expand my suit usage beyond ZZ, Delta Plus and Sinanju, and trying suits that have seemingly decent qualities for what they are (GunEZ, Blue Frame, Justice) find me losing the last 65 of 80 matches (not even joking),and all of those wins took strong partner play. I have no ranked experience due to an inability to find matches, and I'm starting to lose my faith in playing a game as good as this. I've read the suit pages, practiced using suits on my own, but when I try to apply it online, I get completely stomped. Any advice for a struggling beginner is absolutely appreciated, I feel like Gabby Jay from Punch Out.

Stick with what you know. Then when you are comfortable you switch.

Example: I main Alex. I use her to bully my way in when her chobham is up and play carefully when its down. Once I get a groove going I switch out to a suit I'm learning for melee: Dragon.

When you are doing well with a suit you are familiar with you'll do better with a New suit.

Losing and doing bad with your main and switching to something you're not experienced with is a recipe for frustration.

Go over your matches and think objectively.

[IdlersGame]

It seems that going into ranked and playing with others of similar skill level helped me to figure out my role as a hybrid front/rear suit with Blue Frame. 3/5 overall with a few wins in player matches after a couple of rank ups. I do appreciate the advice, although I am now curious about the timing for 2BC in order to counter a melee attempt. It was rare that I used melee due to the nature of Delta Plus, and with what Blue Frame is capable of, BC seems like a safe option to use until a chance for a combo to open up.

[Densuo]

It seems that going into ranked and playing with others of similar skill level helped me to figure out my role as a hybrid front/rear suit with Blue Frame. 3/5 overall with a few wins in player matches after a couple of rank ups. I do appreciate the advice, although I am now curious about the timing for 2BC in order to counter a melee attempt. It was rare that I used melee due to the nature of Delta Plus, and with what Blue Frame is capable of, BC seems like a safe option to use until a chance for a combo to open up.

 

Mash Armor.

 

http://youtu.be/-2kQaMJXARo

[billngjp]

Holy crap he tanked the shit out of that EX attack