heavymetalmixer Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 I'm not new to FGs, but i need to know everythig I can about commitment and overcommitment. This is supposed to be crucial when doing pressure, and I'm very bad doing pressure, so I hope you write here everything you know about this matter.
Airk Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 There's not much to know; "Committing" to something means...deciding to do it and then doing it. You're "committed" once you push the button and the action starts to happen. This can also be used in the sense of a gameplan, where the person usually just means "Don't do it halfway". As in, "If you're going to go in and rush down, don't do so timidly and then back off." "Overcommitted" is pretty much a meaningless term. It just means "you did something you shouldn't have." AFAIK.
Sashi Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Say my 2A is +1 and you just blocked it. I could chain into another normal, I could go into a cancelable overhead, I could go for a tick throw, etc. Not committing at all would be doing another 2A. Over commitment would be doing a special overhead... Or dp! At least, that's how I understand it. Over commitment is basically doing something that pretty much signifies the end of your pressure. If you come at me with a basic chain into a fireball, that's a get out of jail card for me. Not committing would be to keep it ambiguous what you're going to do next by not going too deep into a chain.
Airk Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 The thing about "overcomitting" in that definition is that you've only "overcomitted" if it DOESN'T WORK. That makes "overcommitting" pretty much a useless term.
Sashi Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Nah, you still over committed. You just over committed with a really solid read. If you do Bullet's 623C as an anti-jump during pressure and you catch them, you still hella committed for that.
mAc Chaos Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 To me overcommitting means doing something that puts you in an extremely vulnerable position, and if you don't get punished you got lucky.
Airk Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Nah, you still over committed. You just over committed with a really solid read. If you do Bullet's 623C as an anti-jump during pressure and you catch them, you still hella committed for that. You pretty much just undermined your own argument here, since in the example you just said "Committed" :P Basically: If it works, you committed to the right thing, if it didn't, you "overcommitted". It's a useless term.
Sashi Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 You must be a lot of fun at parties. I don't see the difference between hella committed and over committed outside of one of them making me look like a douchebag from NorCal. If you use an anti air throw as an anti jump during pressure, that's overcommitment.
Airk Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I haven't found anyone yet who will pay me to be a professional wet blanket, so I have to settle for making a hobby of it. Anyway, I maintain that these two terms are basically meaningless. You can use them, but you can't expect people to have a good idea of what you mean, or to agree with the usage, so...
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