Grimsley-San Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Most of them you can block but since it costs 100 heat and puts the user in a punishable spot, people generally try to combo into them, guaranteeing their success. Some of them (for example Relius' and Tager's) are grabs so you'll have to escape them some other way, like jumping or backdashing, even though it's possible to combo into those too since they ("Astral grabs") can't be broken. Not exactly for Relius, if I remember correctly, you're able to block his Astral.
mAc Chaos Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Tsubaki needs a lot of shit, nobody ever denied that. The problem is you hating on every good character because yours is sitting inside the garbage can. I never played Tsubaki, true. A lot of people didn't. But a lot of people played low tier characters either in BB or somewhere else and understand the pain. Azrael, by design, needs the stuff he has, and under his hands they aren't as broken as they might sound if taken out of context. With other chars they might be broken, such as a char with a run type dash having an easily accessible +5 normal. That would be silly, but it isn't the case here. Instead they're good and solid tools that allow him to play his game but don't make up for the weaknesses he has by design. He's a strong character while having glaring flaws, which implies smart design choices. He's a well designed character no matter how salty some folks get because they actually get punished for mashing buttons when fighting this guy. People, please stop bitching about good characters just because yours is ass. Scream for your char getting buffed instead of everyone else getting nerfed. Nerfs are bad, they make games boring. People don't like losing options and that should be kept only for situations where you can't balance something through change. I really didn't want to suddenly derail this admittedly already useless thread, but I'm just so tired of people picking every little reason they can get to complain about one of the only relatively fair top tier chars this franchise ever got.I can't agree with this sentiment enough. Buff shitty characters instead of ruining everybody else's fun.Hakumen was always a fair top tier character though. :V He's always been basic footsies style fighting so everyone can do something about it.
Soviet Bear Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I still get annoyed with getting combo'd into Astral, but it's even more insulting when you're lagging and someone goes into a raw astral just because they know it'll work with the latency. That said, they've minimized Astral annoyance with new installments. Before you'd have people dropping round 2 intentionally just so they could do an Astral in the final round (since it didn't have to be match-point, it had to be literally the final possible round). And let's not forget that, for some reason, you had to unlock Astrals except for three special snowflake characters who had them by default and could use them online. And Hakumen's Astral was 720D like seriously wtf.
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