[P4AU] Marie vs Elizabeth

[Celerity]

Love in an elevator! Discuss your thoughts on the Liz matchup here! Every opinion is helpful.

 

General Gameplan

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Zoning and Trap Placement

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Offense

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Defense

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Things to Look Out For

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Summary

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[TheOneTrueScrub]

Does anyone have any advice approaching Liz? It feels exactly like fighting Yukiko except Zio(?) will snipe you out eye startup. DO I just walk, block, and look out for 5B and 5D?

[Greater Force]

I don't see a Marge topic... so I'll ask here while mentioning my current tactic for both Liz and Marge.

Don't even bother trying a full screen set up. Spears and Zio ruin it.

I like to double jump, superjump, mixed with air dash to get in. I mix J.C and J.D to close the distance (if they use air ziodyne, just out guess them by running forward occasionally, blocking appropriately of course!). Once in... well you gotta stay there. 5B might work on her DP like Kanji's grab, but I always get caught, lol.

While this works against Liz (at least for the ones I encounter). It doesn't seem to be full proof on higher end Marges (those who use well placed air fire/ice balls).

How is the best way to pin down a Marge with Marie?

[Buttface]

Margaret (and Liz) both have atrocious defence, so they have to respect a lot more of your pressure

you just have to slowly make your way in like you would against yukiko, but once you're in it's a lot easier to stay in and you can keep them really locked down