[Xrd] Tier Discussion

[Solid Gold Wall]

On November 1, 2015 at 11:37:23 AM, SynikaL said:

I really have a hard time believing that people would continue to think Sol is THAT durable in Japan.

most of these tier lists come from people who have to fight against mugen and machaboo, so i'd say they know better than anyone how great sol is.

[SynikaL]

First off, I never implied Sol isn't one of the strongest characters - I just don't think he's so strong he's second best. At least, not anymore. While I consider all thoughtful opinions; notions from authority figures aren't gospel for me, like they are for some. I can reckon my own conclusions, thanks. 

Secondly, that list has been implied to be more of a "frequency-of-usage" chart, rather than a thoughtful tier list. There's no way in hell Ky is third best character in the game. 

-Kimosabae 

[RWA Announcer]

I don't think these are numerically ordered with Rank, SynikaL, so the only character that's "numbered" is Milia as #1, because she's the sole S+ Tier.  He's not saying Ky's the #3 in Revelator, just that he's in the same Tier as Sol and those other characters.

[prototype047]

S tier options and S tier swag. How are we feeling about jhonny?

[QSpec]

Does anyone know why they didn't balance characters with Rev?   Xrd as I see it is fairly well balanced, but there seems to be a dominate top tier that could have been toned down or a bottom tier that could have seen a few buffs without really fucking anything up.
 

There are a few character's I'd be hesitant to buff too much.  Both I-no and Ram are often consider lower tier, but both of them can win the game on one hit given the correct parameters (knockdown and corner respectively), so heavy-handed buffs could wreak havoc with both of them.  But others like Pot, Slayer, Bedman, Leo, and May could have used a few quality of life buffs that wouldn't necessarily do much harm.  Or the flip side, there is a rough (and fluid) top tier that could have taken a few smaller nerfs that wouldn't have affected their status too much.  I'm thinking some or all of Zato, Sol, Elph, Faust, and Millia mostly.

 

I haven't played in a while (sold my PS3 and the PC version seems dead as shit, plus SFV, plus KI), so maybe I'm way off and the game is far, far more balanced (especially regarding the all important relative balance between the best characters and the worst), but it seems almost odd that they made zero changes to the Xrd characters.

[rayplay]

Because they had just done a rebalance prior to rev, and, as they said, a lot of people were fine with it and they didn't want to rebalance it again before players could have a chance to really figure out everything. 

[Kain_Dizengarth]

How much do you guys think things have changed with the last patch?
Were the nerfs enough to stop Johnny, Elph, Sin? Who do you think is strong right now?
 I personally think they are still strong, just closer to the rest of the cast. Sol I think is quite strong right now, Millia and Zato were untouched so they are still strong too.