Naka Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25855801 An incredible solid Sin player from Japan
NagorbMan Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/JA4d2TeUfE0?t=4m35s More Sin. (vs Venom god Fino no less :D) edit: Whoa jD counter causes a weird floor-bounce now. Neat! The last combo against the Sol(before he bursted out and VV'd for the win) was really cool, and was evidently burst safe.
Eshi Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/JA4d2TeUfE0?t=4m35s More Sin. (vs Venom god Fino no less :D) edit: Whoa jD counter causes a weird floor-bounce now. Neat! damn that Sol's win was hella fraudulent, I'm mad now -_-
NagorbMan Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Sol is a fair and balanced character after all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jDyOTWnsvc Starts off with Sin vs Bed. Bedman seems to still be a difficult matchup post patch. Edit: https://youtu.be/4jDyOTWnsvc?t=32m37s Same vid. Is this combo doable on console right now? I never tried to do something off of counter hit 6p, but this is certainly better than the whiffed far s you'd normally get at that range.
Dreiko Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 damn that Sol's win was hella fraudulent, I'm mad now -_- He landed to the ground while recovering from his burst BETWEEN the mash H stabs, what can you do, Sin was just unlucky as hell. Sol is a fair and balanced character after all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jDyOTWnsvc Starts off with Sin vs Bed. Bedman seems to still be a difficult matchup post patch. Edit: https://youtu.be/4jDyOTWnsvc?t=32m37s Same vid. Is this combo doable on console right now? I never tried to do something off of counter hit 6p, but this is certainly better than the whiffed far s you'd normally get at that range. Yes 6P counterhit combos into 214S in this game too.
Eshi Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 You do 6P > 214S if you think the anti-air will counterhit, otherwise you do 6P > 5S and hope that you get cS. Venom has an identical consistency problem with his 6P.
NagorbMan Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Is there a terrible consequence if you go for 214s on a not counter hit? Do you leave yourself open to being punished yourself?
Eshi Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Is there a terrible consequence if you go for 214s on a not counter hit? Do you leave yourself open to being punished yourself? There's 3 outcomes to this: 1) They air tech as early as possible and don't FD. 214S resets them for a huge combo. 2) They air tech as early as possible and do FD. Neutral situation. 3) They air tech slightly late, you whiff 214S and die.
Dreiko Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Actually I believe if they tech asap it still whiffs unless you didn't do 214S right after 6P. It always does vs the training bot set to tech instantly anyhow, so it's REALLY bad to just autopilot into it. Thankfully in 1.1 we get to jump cancel 6P for those ambiguous situations where it might be too far away for cS to combo. Also funny thing is that in some ranges fS will come out and will actually combo but in that spacing all you can do is 236H.
mizuiro-kitsune Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Pardon me, but I'm going to dump my 1.1 Sin load all over this threads insides. (Sorry, if any of these vids have already been posted) https://youtu.be/W0jtyS9Zg7I?t=3m5shttps://youtu.be/g7Be-z04-YA?t=39m25shttps://youtu.be/MLfdA6arSco?t=9m42shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl4mbMf3xPUhttps://youtu.be/05UVpO5kEDM?t=13m57shttps://youtu.be/BnHjZMro7rA?t=14m23s
KentoHardRok Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Around 4:10 on the video against may you see the full bounce effect of j.d... I want this patch on console already
Eshi Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Updated the first post with all of the footage! Thanks for helping & timestamping stuff!
Dreiko Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Seems they buffed the second hit of 5H making it prop them up higher cause we get to do this stuff now:https://youtu.be/Gl4mbMf3xPU?t=16m44s
Eshi Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Seems they buffed the second hit of 5H making it prop them up higher cause we get to do this stuff now:https://youtu.be/Gl4mbMf3xPU?t=16m44s I thought that always worked? But on a character specific basic, like how 2D > 236K doesn't work on Slayer.
Dreiko Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I thought that always worked? But on a character specific basic, like how 2D > 236K doesn't work on Slayer. Nah it always was only counterhit-specific from the way I remember it. In any case it definitely didn't work vs chars that 2D>236K works against lol. You can clearly see that after being hit Sol is higher up than he would be in 1.0, they barely get lifted off the ground at all as it is on 1.0.
Eshi Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Nah it always was only counterhit-specific from the way I remember it. In any case it definitely didn't work vs chars that 2D>236K works against lol. You can clearly see that after being hit Sol is higher up than he would be in 1.0, they barely get lifted off the ground at all as it is on 1.0. Ah okay, the 5H low is super useless so I never used it and couldn't remember. It's definitely a good buff, it at least looks a little like 214S so not entirely unfeasible to hit someone with it.
KentoHardRok Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I thought I noticed the same thing just haven't messed with it in 1.0 for a sanity test. second hit in 5H is definitely more flexible. and I don't know if its been mentioned already but the same is true for the float on elk hunt. Looks easier to follow up with a normal c.S And probably belongs in the matchup thread but I noticed Elphelts grenade goes away once she is hit in the patch, there goes 90% of her pressure game, that with eddie's recovery nurfs, Sin's moving up the food chain.
Dreiko Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Second hit of 5H is useful in certain situations where people underestimate its range. It's not as much of a good mixup as it is a move to punish people eager to get up. Also it's pretty safe to eat off of it if they blocked it around max range. Also if they block 5H(1) you can do a little 50-50 with it and jD, though 5H whiffs crouchers so it's not the best thing to use on block. What I mostly tend to use it at is after a pretty far away fS after having gotten my foe to stop trying to do stuff after fS.
mizuiro-kitsune Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 1 whole hour's worth of JT, 1.1, Sin matches. GET YOUR FILL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpmCJw7GdhM
Dreiko Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 More Sin stuff:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoK7LazsWew https://youtu.be/fxVtLlVjRKs?t=8m59s All these people using my color. I knew I picked the good one lol.
TITANIUM BEAST!!! Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Dude, that's the fanboy color, everyone's gonna pick that. Same thing with color 7 for Sol.
Dreiko Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Dude, that's the fanboy color, everyone's gonna pick that. Same thing with color 7 for Sol. It is? I just like how his clothes/pole are the same shade of black/red as the electricity he uses. What even decides this? lol
Destin Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 What is color 7 for sol? I rock 6, its the most solid snake.
Dreiko Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 What is color 7 for sol? I rock 6, its the most solid snake. Oh yeah and for Sol I use the ganguro color. Yellow DI ftw.
TITANIUM BEAST!!! Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Color 7 is the black with red trim/reddish pink sword and white hair. Black outfit with white hair is the typical fanboy color, pretty much. Generic cool.
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