Akira-Shiro

Its been confirmed that carls overdrive does absolutely nothing noticeably to nirvana, it does not increase her damage output nor does it increase her speed, and her meter also stays the same. However it was confrimed that she can link roughly 12 8D's in one combo prior to CP carl could only link 6 without smp taking a large toll, so it can be assumed that his OD removes SMP/same move cost from nirvana all together. But this is still under speculation. A list of all of carls changes have also been compiled here http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14787-Carl-clover-BBCP-loketest-changes-and-discussions-thread We cant confirm what carls OD does just yet, but we know what it doesnt do & thats buff adas speed/strength

thankyou, and i have absolutely no intention of flipping through 150+ pages of useless crap just to find what im looking for and also keep the attitude to yourself it wasnt needed. But thanks for the info anyway

Is there a list of the compiled changes haz has been through??? cause im rather curious as to whats happened to him so far

lol that,, im stealing it.. But have they announced when this next loketest will be taking place,, cause im pretty sure everyone is eager to have more juicy info on there characters revealed?????

If it is as you say then my original hypothesis about carls OD removing same move proration & same move cost on nirvana may be right,, the best way to make carl godly in his OD is to allow us to spam one ada move per combo lol j2c>jc>2D xN lol

They already confirmed that carls OD does not make Ada faster or stronger, they are still confused as to what its actual function does yet

He is more dependent on Nirvana midscreen, however in the corner allegreto wall bounds along with 2c. This would easily make our solo carl options as nirvana regains her health in corner combo's allot more flexible. Not only that but our air hitconfirms all can end in 8D oki ender. Our jc now gattlings into j2c meaning a random ja can turn into ja>jc>j2c(22D)>jb>jb>jc>j2c>jc>*random Ada attack* into another combo into 8D ender. This combo has got to chain the enemy roughly from any one side to the opposite position on the screen without needed ada. So we get super amazing corner carry from almost any air hit, amazing damage from practically no effort in combos and we also still have our (Shitty, fradulent, if not mashable) UB setups. But i feel as tho this is how we should be, a glass cannon was suppose to be the basis of carl. No Hp but high damage output and lockdown. We are not good at catching the opponent however once we do catch them they are dead without a doubt. Our flaw was oki and our normals were not all that good but due to or loops we didnt have that big of an issue. As of now the same rules apply only we cannot loop the enemy until they die, instead we hit them twice and they die lol i think of it as being a bit funny.... but fair. The whole catch me if you can was getting a little annoying in this game.

indeed he seems so much more legit,, i am awaiting for this wonderful new transition from looper to character ^-^ this is so exciting judging from the changes we got so far,, i believe we are so gonna be S-tier

lol the excitement i have for all the new changes is so over barring ^-^ new scythe move looks amazing oh well,,, so long as jesus kick is still jesus kick it wont be so bad

Ahh ok you ment here,, (Mitsuru) Me vs Hallow Haven aka Ayashii (Aigis) Psn netplay Casuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KRVTGzCYa0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhaeEGHT_9E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmqK61hY95U (Mitsuru) Me vs Raiza57 (Akihiko) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LubB08j0hlM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYdVyScNbWk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbTCk6II2s (Naoto) Me vs Troll_Knight (Yosuke) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4ijwmH4BM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1ukeksr9U (Yosuke) DirgeOfPicklez vs me (Naoto) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHkEVCSHYE4 (Yosuke) Dirge vs Me (Mitsuru) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxeqSMOmuL8 and a hole lot more on my youtube page tbh its to much to type out =< sorry if i didnt put your name up if your fought me

Does Naoto still have her SMP combo??? if so what is it. Because i do 5b 5c 2c DD (set trap) 5b 236a 2c(full charged) 5c 236b??? but after another 236b smp takes effect??? why is this

Did u upload them to the same account as the other loketest???? or are u & him 2 different people ?

How come the vids stopped coming.... an is there any new info coming in that needs to be translated????

Is it my imagination of is mr.bloodedge receiving alot of nerfs ???????

If i may ask were are people getting the raw jap info from,, could anyone provide a link please.. i would be very great-full

Ahh ok i see thanks,,,

Ok if someone could help me better understand why mitsuru is S-tier id be very greatful,, all i know is that im not seeing it. Of IOH jb if its connects regardless of block or hit regardless oh crouching or standing we do not get to continue pressure infact its negative,, we cant even use jc to cancel it, im not seeing her having good mixup either her hi low game outside of her instant OH which you need to rapid to make it useful lockdown is all i see going for her. Her All-out-attack is extreamly slow and even if it does hit we lose oki because of it. An alot of our moves put us at neutral like 46A/B.... please im truly not feeling the S-tier ness of her. Other then her damage i dont see her being top

at 1:21 i think,,,,,,, carl does allegreto

depends,,, corner or midscreen... well ill answer them both for the sake of time. For midscreen if she has the health(Because u said if she is dieing) i do jb/jc>5b>6b>cantabile(22D)>5c>(2D)jb>jc>2D>vivace-B>5c(Volante)>jb>jc>volante>5c>jb>j2c>jb>jb(8D)>jc>8D (optional fermata)>3c>optional cantada As for corner u have 5b 5c cantabile(22D) 5c sjb j2c jb jb jc brio 5c sjb j2c jb jb(8D) jc 8D Sj.IAD j2c allegreto 8D [edit] wait clap i thought you were talking about in EX >.< talking about CP in the EX thread is getting a bit confusing.... but anyway if ur talking about CP id sad anything into 6b 6a launch will have to do for now.... actually bare with me on this but think about this, we never launch with 6c because of the low p2 and besides we have cantabile so why bother... but now that its gone we can do 6b>6a>sjb(22D)>jc>j2c(volante)jb>jb>jc>5c re-lauch if hitstun allows it, unlikely due to the 6a launch Also i believe it to be a system change that our OD effects since its not carls damage, adas damage, or adas speed, ada's hp might recover super fast actually?? possibility

what are u talking about no one knows what carls mode does????

Afro,,, i dont think ur getting what im saying... our mode i believe removes smp not just our character not having it in general because your confusing me at the moment

cantabile does not hit on none standing opponents so this would be impossible, also with the 4D i do not think the person was trying to tech. In locktest they make it a bad habit to just put the controler down while the person is trying to combo. This right here im assuming is a response to my post in the CP thread, but i dont quite follow you. Why would they just remove the smp on adas attacks if they did we would be amazingly broken. Which is the reason i think its our mode. If in our mode smp is gone we can do j2c allegretoxN untill the person dies tbh but that just my belief. Continuing on i to think that for once our corner damage is gonna be amazingly good because our corner damage & midscreen damage have kinda been the same in each variation on BB,, so for once we get the OP damage that we have longed for in the corner,, im very excited ^-^ Also, according to the general thread, they are already launching a new version of the game for the loketests from now till sunday >_>. So expect some changes.

Hmm elaborate please, i fell as tho due to the vacuum i had assumed it made all our corner combos alot more effective. While making our midscreen combos less effective. Because if you think about how we make these specific moves combo IE 4D seeing as how this is the only move that causes vacuum that we KNOW how to combo with. But continuing on, to combo into 4D we would need to use (since the attack animation was changed) allegreto or jb into the 4D an even then to vivace behind them and use 5c would be impossible due to insufficient hitstun so we would have to do jb and going into the jb combo route would move us way past ada and we would lose oki??? unless of corse they gave the new 4D the same untechable properties that 8D has i see no use for it midscreen.

carl has received all nerfs mentioned he may not still have then seeing as how this is a locktest and thing change with each variation,,, just because hes still good doesnt mean he didnt get nerfed. His buffs make him a very dangerous on the offensive end. Are damage output is by far the highest right now then it has been in any version of the game.

ahh i see it now,, i overlooked it because i had thought it to be 4D,, the animations look somewhat similar.