advancedNoob

Last time I played a decent Tsubaki I quickly realized that she will become a major pain in CS2. She has some REALLY SICK frame traps and unblockable attack resets that will make your brain hurt.

This tier list pretty much everyone agrees with, except Tao placement, yet even she is 1 rank away from full agreement.

Tao is a definite S tier and she is easily better than Bang, the rest of the list looks fair.

link is broken though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM Raiza, good point, thanks.

Rofl, why is everyone so negative toward raiza? You people need to realize that even though he plays online, the only difference is combo timing... Net players still, day-by-day, gain better understanding of pressure, blocking, improve reaction and anticipation. I can bet he will own the same people he can own online, offline, after 1 hour of practice in no input delay environment. So how do you deal with players that barrier block, thus push you away, your pressure and as soon as you are pushed far enough, they just jump away from. This completely resets my pressure game...

Defensive fundamentals: hold up-back + barrier and you are golden.

Jin vs Ragna is pretty fair, with some advantage towards Ragna. You need to understand Jin's strings better: 6C can only be cancelled into 6B, 6D, DP or DD. 6B and 6D are easily punished by 2a starter combos, DP and DD present a minor risk but if in doubt mash ID, unless he has 50 heat he will eat it. Do 2nd DP on clash. Jin's air game is far superior to Ragna's, hence I think it's best to fight him on the ground, at least in most cases. These are just several things that I can think of at the moment.

So basically when someone says "2D is very unsafe", they WAY over exaggerate...

rei-Scarred, yeah, it's a very well put tier list. Even Bang, he is GOD, but not Litchi GOD.

SBO Dora vs Kid Viper looked pretty epic! Raptor, I'm obviously missing something here. I don't have a lot of experience vs Noel, but I played a few good ones and 2D/5D was not pretty when they aren't just spammed by someone. Explain to me, please, suppose you are Hazama without meter, how will you punish blocked 2D since expanding chain revolver with A string makes it safe on block (at least I couldn't jab out of it). Even if you do manage to sneak in 2A, it's still far below 1K. What about Jin and Ragna? Sure, they can DP, but Ragna's DP outside the corner will yield less than 1K punish, while 2D on hit provides 4.5K combo. Same goes for Jin. Her risk/reward is FAR from fair.

Did you not see recent Noel videos? They mash 2D like there's no tomorrow...

huey253, yeah I haven't seen at the time when I made my post. His DD IS too good, but outside of that he is a well balanced character. 2A that stops rolls can be used with pretty much any character, so I don't see how that gives him an advantage, option-select DD is null if you delay your roll. But hey, look at Tao who has godlike speed, mobility and mixup and easily gets 3.5K+ mid screen. Look at Jin, who got buffed from CS1 while being a solid A tier character. Noel and Makoto with easy 5K damage, add 50 heat and you get 6K+. Carl with his doll can reset the crap out of your life bar and there's only so much you can do to get out.

He needs corner and a shit ton of meter for that. He is definitely A tier, but not S.

Easily, nerf his jB and most arakune's are switching mains.

Airk, you obviously don't play hazama if you think like that. Define play. Mash 2A until it hits? Jourdal, Arakune needs no mention, lol. He is broken by default.

Rest of the cast looks balanced and Hazama looks broken? Wtf, lol. His Houtenjin follow up is a bit too strong, but he is not even close to makoto, noel and jin.

Whenever I get hit by Valk it's 4.5K+, never less and god forbid you blink and miss the command grab, you are fucked.

So does anyone ever hold any gatherings on Long Island, or is it all going on in the city?

His wolf form still looks as goodly as ever, not as damaging, but nevertheless very effective.

Bang is fugly, Makoto is hot ass+boobs+god status XD

So I can use 3 characters at a semi-decent level: Ragna, Jin and Hazama. Facing Litchi is incredibly tough, facing Bang is difficult, facing Taokaka is a NIGHTMARE... Is there anything she has trouble with as a character? She is literally the same level as any SNK boss character. I tried using Hazama, understood that spamming chains is a NO, 2A always either loses or trades with her teleport (either way, too much of a gamble), 5A is a mistake to use as well, his reversal is a guess game not in your favor. Few times I managed to get on the offensive side and deal some damage, but her speed is just INSANE, she can run away and make you the defender in a flash. Jin was a fail as well. Ragna, I've seen some videos, seen some 6A teleport counters, so I tried using it. OMG, once again, guess game that is not in your favor. DP is a fail, 2a 5a always loses, 5b always wiffs, 5C is too slow... How do you fight against her? She is all over the place, attacks from every possible direction with such speed that it's basically impossible to block it all, hence you are always stuck blocking and eating resets...

Yeah, some nice ggs.

Noel is mashing that drive button pretty hard, lol.

jiyuna, good stuff, thanks!