Starkaiser

I heard so many information about cross-platform but I m not quite sure if this is true or not. Some rumor says that it is future task that they couldn't yet do it.

Could anybody suggest just a few most practical combo for mu-12? a mu-12 newbie here wanna learn ^^; P.S. I saw combo thread, but it has way too many and confusing for beginner.

Couldn't say thank in my topic before it closed, so I want to thank people here who answered it there.

236D oki is safe option, do you ever seen any JP pro get punish by doing so? Only possible for opponent to punish you from that is if you miss timing to use it. (with practice, you shouldn't miss it tho) I won't argue about 5C is safe or not, it is all depend on your opponent ( I do use it too when I know opponent is being haste), but there is reasons why pro JP players rarely doing so. ( I mean very very rare)

If the opponent is new to lambda, use 5C as oki will make him hit with another combo by you, but if he is pro one, use 236 oki always the best.

For the normal match, yes on the 5C, because I never seen any move to counter it yet in the proper space. it force opponent to guard, and force the stupid one to try to counter and getting hit by our 5C instead. (it has 1 frame every hit after the first one, that is why nobody can counter it) However,in JP pro vid, they won't do this, because once Opponent guard your 5C in "distant that avoid DP". you will remain to have very small mix-up to continue combo after that.and if they guard all, they will be able to start counter-attack you. (Pro players won't try to counter your 5C, they will just guard it and seeing as oki) It is better to use 236D to oki pro players, because it give you more mix-up choice when they guard it.

It is hard to realise your fault during play, but I usually notice them later in video. Ya, I know pretty much those except gravity ice car part. Good players would never allow predictable. The thing is that our internet players will never have a perfect game play. Really, I alway try to follow jp vid to copy their step and stuff. Then I realize later that we aren't in that appropriate level yet. So I just getting better when I try to make my own style. And in this level, mistake gonna happen a lot. (even tourney pro still fail for purple throw) So the video isn't mean to show a perfect but only give general out line only. Thank for comment and tip tho, keep them coming, sometime it might be something I never think of

Here is a new match I did for Ragna, the guy already know lambda much better now, while I also know his ragna much better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2L0Z204JFw Hope the vid will help show something, because this guys is quite better than average ragna users, he has very high winning chance in network mode. I think that Jp pro vids are sometimes too hard to learn from them, and we don't really see those pro users in internet anyway. so it is not so practical.

Thank for every helps here, not so good yet, but I think I already know how to control situation with Jin ^,^ here are my new videos : I finally got to win against a Jin user who has over 3000 Win game-play at around 50:50 now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMyu-PagNl4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pWQARQp2l8 I also win another random Jin who joined the room by 100% rate too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaWR5_J3PEY So I think I m much better at Jin than before now at least. this thread has served it purpose.

Do you guys look at this video yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84op9PYEhY I think the combo in video is shown very good, and has pretty good damage. But some are characters specific, and some are very tight timing.

Just don't scare him, you can think in your mind that if you aren't in corner, he can't do big combo against you. usually he will just try to do combo that push you to corner which is only 2000 damage. and you still have a lot of chance to get out of corner from him. Dead Spike = the best chance to escape. (jump out) Each Ragna aren't with same strength, but.. These videos might prove little use here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrKXqzjmb8g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qryTUfv2ZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DexA5QmcgWQ Those Ragna players in vids 've played this game since CS1, so they played around a year before me and then just had to adjusted combo when I started playing in CS2.

The block part, well ..should be another way around... <,<; well, if you look at my lambda vs Jin vid, then they blocked a lot at distant they lose or in disadvantage situation, basically, I think that the reason they not block much there because it is not lambda match.. and they think they can make it faster than other so bet on that.. (same char, same distant, same attack, faster = win) About grab, I m now good with it already. ^^b

We have so many Jin users in competition, and as expected final round is Jin vs Jin. and one of the guy of the competitor in this match is the guy I have trouble with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmiu5pIpzzw I think they both are quite good with Jin. I m trying to find their weak hole from this lol.

My friends already played online match for over 3000 rounds, so he kidda know how to varie his mix-up, but Jin still get the limit on how he couldn't overhead much. Only 2 way for Jin to overhead combo is by jump attack or by doing 6A->rapid. So that help me for the block and I keep crouch blocking him mainly. The only remain problem I have with his block sting is that I don't know when can I counter him if he just keep reseting his safe attack. keep blocking and finally he would be able to break in my guard when I did any mistake. (mainly trying to counter him at wrong time) Well, in Thailand we have a little online competition last week, and that Jin got to fought with another Jin in mirror match. I have that recorded, it might tell you what he did often on sting.

You mean these post about Jin? Can I post at general? Anyway, About my idea, I wasn't meaning of covering all situation, but just cover the general part that Jin always do : For example : show that he walk in and use 2D->5C-> sting. then the result for bad example = lambda get hit by Jin combo. result for good example = guard until which part and counter with combo. actually, if I can request there is just 2 part I really want to look at mainly. first is his general corner combo sting with reset. he usually have not many choices but will try to mix with throw or 6A rapid. A good Jin will try to reset between this loop with smallest chance for us to punish. and I want to know the way to get out here. (so you can separate into "if he 6A route" "if he 6C route" etc.) Second one is his (jin) general respond/evade to our Drive in air, how many choices does he have to dodge our attack safety, and what should we do after? There is no 100% thing, but he has just not so many choices in those two cases, but still I don't know a good solution for it.

The resolution is much better than expected from a digital video camera. Nice! But, from each video, I can see clearly that those Jins aren't the same strong. So, wining or losing to those isn't what important here, but the important is what can we learn from it. (or any other lambda can learn from this thread) Therefore, I think it might be better if our pro lambda players can make some kind of video like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvrafHIyhw That video is case study for Tager, it tell all opponent behavior and how to counter it. I think lambda could do the same since we have many tools for doing so. The video will be a great guide that everybody can use to any Jin. (he/she can choose the tool to counter each Jin from the choices) For example, if you stuck in this kind of situation, how to go out of it. case by case study. We could possibly focus on Jin and Hazama.

oh, so you mean like I can 6DD it in time before failing? because I already dash into another direction when they happening. I m aware of that, but lately he has been dodging them all, so I didn't expect it to hit him those timing. If I wait to see the result whether it hit him or not, then my movement might get slower, so what should I do? I wonder a good lambda should do the feint/attack/poke/hit confirm and stand in prepare to wait for result? or just move ahead to make sure you can dodge his coming counter attack and from his cornering you ? and what should I replace them with? thank.

Thank for everybody, I think I got some improvement from every suggestion. Compare to the last time when I totally lose and he could counter all of my actions. I think I did progress something back to him this time. (the win rate is 3:7 now, still lose tho) So this is the lastest vid I fought him, could you guys give some more improvement tip base on this new video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKMSnIn51io

^ ^ ^ And that is how he play, he always move around the whole match. -Gravity Seed on ice car, what timing do you mean? I don't we can do that unless we know he is coming by car. and we are screw up to give him free time by thinking of this if he choose to come in another method? Is there to make this no risk ? -I think Jin don't use 6C>6D unless we certain that his 6C hit me, or when he plan to freeze me for Astral Finish. what I used to see is that he will keep doing small loop of mix up between A B C in close, or come throw. About the combo that I can't do it online, there are so many. Mostly the one that start with 236B has very tight timing. if you need example, the one it use on Jin and Tsubaki in this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84op9PYEhY Thank for all information.

We used to do on-pair in match up, but dunno how did he go practice, and it turn out that he counter everything I do. I think Jin has ice sword that can repel your 214D that need much longer time to charge, and ice car that beat 236D at far distant. if he used before me, then I would know to guard and punish, but he only use it when I use 214D or use it as surprise attack... so yes, he probably know the match better than me now. Could I get some help on breaking down particularly on Jin's action? -If he use ice sword from ground... will you guard it or repel it with 5C(risky)5D? assume that he will run to you after sword, so guarding it mean let him in. -If he double jump, I know that I can 2DD him, but if he use ice car to evade 2DD, then I will get punish back, so what should I do? If I wait him to use air ice car first to punish after and he doesn't use that. then he will be right in front of me for free.. -how to push him off me when he already close-to me? what is a good way other than my usually 2A->B->combo and 236A which no longer work on him.. -From videos, did you look them? it is possible for you to guess his habit from it for strategy? @toanenadiz, those jin and lambda from each video have different players, so I m not sure if they can make any compare at all. But the general result is that: aggressive Jin always seem to win (and easy too) while defendsive Jin always lose.(but not so badly) They are under pressure of competition so I see defensive Jin always make many little mistake that even I can point it out. so it is different from online match here where little delay will make lambda unable to pull out difficult combo.(while Jin user can do all of his combo online, so he has more tools). And the good Jin in online match doesn't mistake to wait much. He doesn't have only just one chance, so he can take a bet of 50:50 choice. if he win the bet he can punishment harder anyway. This is my opinion from seeing your links. I wonder if the lambda on winner side will meet with Jin on winner side in SBO soon, so we can see which char get advantage.

The last vid actually link to the fight between lambda vs Arakune, but the first 2 vids lambda lose badly there by the reason that Jin could pass her zoning, just similar to my case, altho the JP lambda player getting better at zoning, that JP Jin get better at getting close too, end up with same result. @Kenja0 ; ohh! I completely forget to dash under him in whole yesterday 10x runs! yes, I used to do that on vid 1-3, I just dunno why I forgot it now, thank for pointing out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj7I5P4CQbk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cyOFJO3tI8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDlNe2pMQyI Actually, I m curious if anybody here has playable connection to Asia? I know Rezzah live somewhere there from connection. Because it'd be best if I can see an actual lambda who could still zone him now. he is both slow-quick depend on my zoning. I don't know where did he practice it from.. Anyway, Thank you a lot for tips, I will try to note them down and fix. I feel better now to see many lambda users still be around this forum. at first I thought many already left this characters.. (because other character forum are kidda very active) My friend Piowah/Muzamane used to main this character before I played this game, but he now left for Bang or something ;w; I m glad. Still many of us. ^__^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUlt0aLptw Lambda vs Noel, great fight. I think the match up give some advantage to Noel. But it is very fun fight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no6P4ftoA8c lambda vs Jin (4), I m completely in lose here. I think Jin has too many tool to win against Lambda match-up. Today I just lost to this guys 10-1.

The problem is that double jump can go pass 6DD and 214D -> then my next attack would do 2DD -> but he still pass 2DD by air ice car when I did... so now I really don't know how to deal with him. Then the pressure just ate me more on that runs.. now I think lambda has really in disadvantage against Jin match up. So basically he could pass my zone and come to me too quick, leave me at disadvantage.. as expectation of level 76 player >< Btw, Do you have any suggestion of video that Lambda win Jin? looked at the first page of video thread : Lambda lose to jin in all the vids.. just like what happen here, Jin get close-by very quick.

Pleaase help me how to deal with this Jin. I rarely beat him at all... around 1/10 nowadays... T_T http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no6P4ftoA8c&feature=youtube_gdata It would be good if anybody could point out specifically what I should have done at what time instead of what I did.. My guess is that he already learn my style..

Lambda vs Lichi videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPxpU9LXQtc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hIig3S5Ig both of them are me vs the same person, so none of us increase our skill during just 2-matches there, but the result between two are very different. First one show that you shouldn't allow yourself in corner position.. or it is very heavy punishment. Second one show that if you control the game well, the game turn out much better.