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GGs, I'll keep practicing BB because I need to step up my game for next time which is in a while unfortunately :< Good luck to everyone going to NEC and have a lot of fun (PS: Subwoofer + ice arrows was the best sound I've ever heard so satisfying)

It does need to hit, and from the movelist I think the burst itself activates the instant kill.

They can. The enemy has to be lower than 30% health at the beginning of the combo if I recall correctly for the IK to activate on the 200% veil off.

Usually Kubo takes the color dark blue/black Seth, what I think you mean is this series of videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YC-LEqU290 at 25:58. There is also a more recent tournament where Kubo just destroyed everything that you may have seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuLce8PK3M8 maybe the video you're looking for is one of these.

lol well it does look like it but actually he's boosting his GRD bar.

Upon activation, it's a burst then while in veil off there is like melty blood unlimited meter and a little extra damage. The combo extension can be done from what I can see by using chain shift to cancel the recovery of a move and then they use veil off blowing the enemy straight up and they are able to continue from there.

As a reversal burst it's not 100% reliable because the hitbox is not the best, its slow, if I recall correctly its punishable on block. Might as well only use a reversal super to the same job at the cost of only 100% Also, the comeback factor of veil off doesn't seem that big + when veil off is done you are stuck with no meter. I don't think it gives your life back, just the unlimited meter + extra damage. But more and more ppl are using it mid-combo (so far I saw Seth and Gordeau and maybe even Carmine using it mid-combo) to get access to the 200% super or just comboing into the IK. So I think it's a matter of time for people to integrate veil off into combos if its possible/useful for that character.

Glad to see some nice Seth play. Seems like comboing into Veil off with Seth using chain shift+orb is a nice way for Seth to get his 200% super in as long as he has more than 100%. Waiting for some Hyde now.

Good stuff, I hope he keeps the loops at 0:30 it gives him more variety in his combos and it looks awesome.

Actually there was Gordeau and Seth in the sets. And yeah Vatista destroyed most of the competition only to be stopped by Seth which in turn lost to Yuzuriha :V. Abelcru uploaded 47 minutes of gameplay on youtube, hats off to him. Characters that were used on stream on the top of my head: Gordeau, Vatista, Seth, Yuzu, Hyde, Linne, Orie (of which I saw her final super activated in veil off at 200% iirc) Did you guys see Hilda in the character selection screen? Because I didn't, I am guessing she'll get patched in later.

GGs to the people today, it was an excellent session. Thx Bibi for the matches, it helped me a lot. +those tales games gdlk :D And good stuff to Pedro having new set-ups everytime I play against him.

He was there last week too but I got lucky and won last week. However this week, he played nicely and placed me last in this tournament. Although,... 1st tournament: 1st match: Kanji 2nd tournament 1st match: Mitsuru 3rd tournament 1st match: Mitsuru (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Good to see more xbox players :D I'm starting to play more BB to shake off the rust I got from persona so I'd be down to play it for sure. I used to play a little of skullgirls the first few weeks when it came out but not so much recently. If you have xbox live then you can add me and we could do some online matches. In any case, see you at foonzo.

Little update to the corner combos on the first post since they are lacking updates: 5B > 2B > 5C > 214D (OMC) > 214B > 5C > 2C (DC) > 66 > 2AB = 3346/15 (added the SP gain) This should also be considered a midscreen combo since I started midscreen. 5B > 2B > 5C > 214C > 5A > 5C > 2C > (delay) 214B > j.236236C (Ziodyne): 3439/25 (50 SP Req.) Edit: Not possible --> 5B > 2B > 5C > 214C > 5A > 5C > 2C > (delay) 214B > 5B > (2B) > j.C > j.214A > 5AAA: XXXX/XX 5B > 2B > 5C > 214C > 5A > 5B > j.C > j.214A: 2204/20 How about some cross slash combos to finish the opponent off: bit more advanced Off 214A without the use of 5D: Corner: 214A > OMC > 5B > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214B > j.BB > j.B > JC > j.BB > j.C > j.B+D > Ziodyne 4362/07 100 SP Corner: CH 214A > 5B > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214B > j.BB > j.B > JC > j.BB > j.C > j.B+D > Ziodyne 4462/32 50 SP (easier but leaves more blue health) Corner: 214A > OMC > 5B > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214B > (TK) j.214B > Cross Slash 4426/07 100 SP (tip: for the TK j.214B don't press B too fast) Corner: CH 214A > 5B > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214B > (TK) j.214B > Cross Slash 4526/26 50 SP midscreen: 5B > 5C > 214D > OMC > 214B > 66 5B > j.C > 214B > 2B > j.C > 214A 3676/14 5B > 5C > 214D > OMC > 214B > 66 5B > j.C > 214B > 2B > j.C > 214A > Ziodyne 4587/14 (100SP) 5B > 5C > 214D > OMC > 214B > 66 5B > j.C > 214B > 2B > j.C > 214A > Cross Slash 4966/14 (100SP) Edit: For j.A and j.B if not counter hit then I go for a quick ender, preferrably in j.214A and if it's counter hit and midscreen then they can't tech until they hit the ground allowing you to do a basic anti-air combo, I will have to see in the corner since I just started to look at his corner combos.

gg guys had some good sets. Although I got irritated about how I played today both BB and P4A. I spammed so many DPs today, it's not even funny. I'll put some more time in BB so that I can have a proper match next time against kaeru and bibi.

Or if you're too worried about the timing after the CH grab midscreen, have meter: CH C+D > 214C > Ziodyne 2409/07 or awakening CH C+D > 214D (1 hit) > Cross Slash 2659/04 Or if you are reeeeeally lazy: CH C+D > Cross Slash 2690/04 (that range lol) (while writing down the damage found a weird/not worth it gimmick where you would do: CH C+D > 214D > OMC depending on the time where you OMC you will be either be on the left or right side of the opponent. Not practical at all but interesting) Edit:+ A random extra midscreen to finish off opponent: 1 burst + 50 SP ( impractical resource wise but noting it down since it's interesting that it works) CH C+D > 214D (1~2 hits depending on timing) > OMB > 214B > 66 5B > 5C > j.BB > j.B > JC > j.BB > j.B > j.B+C > Ziodyne 3830/07 The first three are worth noting since its interesting that it works but the extras are merely lab randomness.

Wow Elizabeth's instant kill is not what I expected. With 100 meter you can you can spam all the "random ziodyne into OMC" you want on her for pressure. If she wants to troll you by activating her instant kill then you just spam rapid. It'll one more the ziodyne and when you are not doing anything rapid turns into quick evade, she misses her ik by the invincibility and gets countered by the rest of ziodyne + possible follow up in corner. Edit: Or just OMC into block since it's blockable or even instant block it . Why is her IK even blockable? As long as you don't do a random D swift strike midscreen or ziodyne without the meter to OMC (which should not really happen) then you're good. Another random fact that her 3 hits that are used to enable her IK is the number of hits you'll have to hit the barrier in the same round. So if you hit her barrier twice and she lives to use it again in the same round then the first hit will activate her IK.

Might as well add the basic bnb for mid screen air grabs OMC: (uses 50 SP) air grab > OMC > 2B > 5C > j.B > j.BB > (JC) > j.B > j.C > j.214A 3242 / 08 (+Ziodyne: 4153) or the more instinctive one replace the 5C for 5B for 3079 dmg / 08 (+ Ziodyne: 3990) Not a pro about the corner stuff. Here is an example, with pretty much the easiest dive kick link in his corner combos probably because it isn't optimized in terms of damage but it has good oki and not hard to do. corner: air grab > OMC > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214B > j.2A 3342 / 08 ( j.2A oki) If you want more damage by adding ziodyne then here is a variation: (100 SP) air grab > OMC > 2B > 5C > 2C > 214B > j.B > j.B+D > Ziodyne 4421 / 01 random tips: OMC must be done ASAP after the throw, the air grab itself gives you 6 SP, midscreen air grab bnb works also in corner, in the corner if you have no SP to OMC and you are high enough then use j.D right after grab for pressure.

Ugh, I knew I should have brought the xbox version with me this morning...I guess after work I can go home and get it. A detour is worth it if we can get another setup.

The last part of Mash's notes touches on this (the link is on the previous page) and then its only a matter of practice to get used to it. good luck

I see what you mean now. lol Persona 4 slow-mo arena. And, I only saw 3 characters online today: Yukiko, Kanji and Mitsuru. :P Though, I am loving lighting car's low profile/speed, it makes so many matchups easier. And thanks Mash for the trick for OMC, made it way easier to get the combo.

That's nice, I'll be sure to add some info in there. Tomorrow I am going into the lab to get the combos down to be able nicely punish those DPs. And yeah dat 5D oki :D

Played the game for the first time today. It was godlike. Yu is pretty much how I imagined him to be and can't wait for a long session in training mode. Though day 1 persona is crazy. O_o loving the sweep, 5D oki :D

The range isn't good on the move but if the opponent manages to block then you won't be in trouble.

Well not sure with instant block but he mashed after getting hit by one and it wasnt possible. but it's probably not that much plus though. He is testing things out on the stream atm not really frame data.