Michiru

Bang has the 3rd highest Hp in the game.... Haku-men has the second. An Bang is tied with Jin for 3rd iirc.

SMP did retain the same properties in CP. The issue is that in EX the hitstun was determined by proration of a combo. Whereas in the next version (CP) the hitstun is determined by time limit based on your starter. So hypothetically speaking for every 1 second that passes in your combo, hitstun is reduced by like 7frames(This is just hypothetical) If you were to do a move that has SMP in the beginning of your combo in CP, then the opponent would not tech directly after being hit. In some cases they might not tech till they hit the ground. However if you were to activate SMP during the middle of a combo let say 5seconds (5seconds x 7frames= 35frames of hitstun lost), because of how much time has pass and how much hitstun has been reduced they will tech instantly after being hit. However this is more of what I think than something that is absolute. Based off of what we all have seen in videos its the only logical explanation. Because I have seen combos where a person would use SMP in the beginning and they did a small Air combo directly afterwards. I also believe that some moves during OD are immune to hitstun reduction (Hazama OD combos) which allows them to use them multiple times during one combo..... However this is just me placing the pieces together, no indefinite proof.. Just a educated guess.

GG's to Ayahshii, Dontexplain, Gigaitachi and the randoms. #Ragna mirrors

Just got home.. Is there any reason you are not using this thread to inform me of our FT10. Also, why did you tell me the time you wanted to do it on the day of? You never tell anyone something on the day of and expect them to show up on time. So yea im late,,, sorry about that.

Did anyone else notice the Hitstun it had on Ragna while he was standing??? Looks amazing, IMO best neutral tool we have Hitstun + Speed + Reach= Godlike.

Where are the vids??

GG's to the people in Howling-_-moon's room. Also a very very funny set of matches for Moon.

Well I have never played a relius only main.. Only people I see play Relius are Tempest, myself and someone I use to play with.... So ehh fair enough.

Gio calls his Relius "My mashy Relius" its why the words were in quotes. Secondly I said you lost to fundamentals. Gio knows how to blow up Haku's that over abuse drive without a legit opening to use it. <------- Fundamentals I did not use myself in reference at all during that wall of text. Everything in that wall of text was reffering to Gio, except the part where I lost to his "Mashy Ragna". Tbh I dont think Gio knows a combo that goes over 4k without the need of a fatal or DD.

...... Its getting kinda Gay in here,, even for me. *Grabs stuff and leaves*

Iv played Ctrl's Relius. Although it was still better than the other Relius players I have seen on PSN, it could still use some work. Seeing as I won majority of the Relius mirriors we did because I noticed a few flaws in his style of play and I exploited them thoroughly. Please do not take this the wrong way because I am not trying to be rude in anyway shape of forum.. However because of the level of skill that NeoGio possess he would not need to actually 'Learn' a character in order to beat you and the vast majority of the people on PSN/Xbl. To be honest I do not believe Gio knows much of anything about Relius, so to suggest him as a teacher would be semi useless since the only advice he would give you would be something like "Stiff arm the trash and keep it moving, dont waste time on filth." >.> As much as I love Gio.,... That advice would help no one and you lost to "My mash Relius" Gio could play any character in BB on a much better scale than I could.. However he is lazy and only wins with fundamentals. He doesnt use any character specific strats. So unfortunatley you lost to pure fundamentals. Which is ok, because out of the multiple times iv played his shitty "Mashy Ragna" I have lost to it.. once. Fucking Ragna.

Yea im late and all... But Neogio does not play Relius >.> Anyone trying to play??

GG's to the people in start-demons room.

GG's to you as well

Anyone trying to play?

Lol I tried doing stick, I could not get a forward dash, air dash and damn sure not a IAD out to save my life.

Playing Carl wears out my D-pad im not sure if you were aware of how constantly mashing J2c-Allecan, Brio, Allegreto, using Carls Kara dash cancel, along with the other miscellaneous things Carl has Ada do at neutral, and of course more Brio will eventually cause the D-pad to exfoliate (Like my D-pad literally looks like the plastic has been burned). If you honestly believe a D-pad does not get wear and tear from playing Carl... >_> well I dont even know what else to say that. Playing Litchi wears out the D-Pad cause... Wait, have you ever played Litchi. Her standard corner combo consist of like 8 DP and QCF motions total into it. Lets look shall we 5b>2c>6d>Hatsu>Haku>Chun>Haku>Hatsu>Last Reach-A>5a>5b>5D>Chun>6d>5b>6c>Dp cancel~4> jb>jb>jc>Jd>jc>6a>2d>41236D >.< that shit burns my thumbs after one single combo. For those who dont know Haku: 236a Hatsu: 236b Chun:236c Last Reach-A: 63214-A I did not just randomly name out characters I hope this bit of information will suffice for my reasoning behind choosing the characters I did. I did neglect a few characters yes, however the ones I named where just the first that came to my mind. Bang however is not one, nothing he does is hard nor does it hurt my fingers like the characters listed. However I suppose I should not have spoken for everyone and I do apologize for that.

What on earth are you talking about O.o I could have sworn this conversation was about characters who rub the D-pad so hard it wears out rather quickly. Tager is one of those characters. Bang is not, unless you are doing un-optimal fuex-follets flashy combos. >_> But those are useless.

Lol the D-pad when playing tager is used a lot because of all the Dp motions he has to do in one single combo. All the pulling he has to do, all the magnet charge buffers into Hammar. The Ib 360's, overall its not hard to do. However tager players do press a lot of buttons during combo. Its not that his combos require a stricter timing than Bang because thats not the case. However the number of Dp inputs Tager does in the course of a single round is kinda high, in comparison to Bang who only does it during combos and the occasional command grab.

Sure why not. PSN I.D.: Akira-Shiro Character: Carl (Might change my mind >.>) State/Province: Washington D.C Time Zone: East-coast Edit: If you tell me how to donate.. I could donate $20 maybe $30.

Tager does not require high execution... But niggas mash 720 so hard they be instant blocking LMAO!!!!

I would assume it would be more because of who you play.. I know my pad gets worn out after about a year of playing majority of the cast. You need to mash different things in combos. Bang was never really a high execution characters. So it would be natural for a bang players controller to out last a Carl, Litchi, and Tager I suppose. Not only that.. but i hold my D-pad down kinda hard >_>

How.... unfortunate =< Looks like you wont be having any GG"s for a while =(

Quit downing on yourself, the matches were fine. Important part is if you had fun.. GG's though. We should do this again some other time. GG's to surfiet as well not sure what you are talking about because me and Lime could play just fine. Oh well, maybe next time? GG's for the ones we had.

Sure, ill shoot you a psn message. Reply to it once you get home.