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If you're referring to 1:14:09 in that Zagi vid the commentator says "mazu" Thanks for the links~

The changes to QV knockback actually seem to affect this setplay quite a bit. I found spacing/timing the okizeme very difficult. I got it to work but I honestly don't believe it's very viable anymore.

Cancel 6C later, make sure j.C is the 12th hit in the combo. You should be doing this anyway to maximise damage. No issues with Mu, delay 6A?

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5823-cp-rachel-video-thread/ If you're struggling with neutral, this thread seems to have more videos than the Litchi forum. It's not 1.1 but that doesn't matter. Just look for Rachel (N-O) vs Galileo or any strong Litchi player.

What combos are you talking about exactly? 5BD > 6A > 66 5B > 6A > 236A... works fine if you slightly delay the lobelia It just seems to be the case of juggling him slightly higher and/or delaying the 236A Corner requires different combos 5B > 5CC > 5B > 6A > 4B > 6A > 236A > 3C for example

I just looked up the combo. It may be an issue of delaying the 6A so he doesn't bounce over the 5CC, you want to input the dash as soon as 4B recovers (you can't dash cancel 4B etc). If you're having trouble with that specifically, maybe just practice 5BD > 6A > 4B > dash 5CC.

A-cho [04/08/14] [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs BA [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs RL [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs BA [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs RL [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs BA [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs CA (Eesuke) x2 [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs BA [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs RL [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs BA [04/08/14] RC (N-O) Vs CA (Eesuke) x9 [04/10/14] RC (N-O) Vs LT - This Litchi is Galileo

This combo doesn't regen both wind stocks, you get about 1.25 stocks back before you jump, then the opponent techs as soon as you land. It does more damage and leaves you closer to the corner but you're giving up options and wind regen. I would definitely opt for: (2B) > 5B > (6B) > j.3D > j.B > j.C > 5BD > 6A > dash 5B > 6A > 236A > dash 3C(1) > 214C > dash 6A > 4B > dash 5CC if it's an option. Carries fullscreen and after you summon a pumpkin etc you have basically regened both wind stocks. Can tack on TD as well for corner oki and wind regen. Edit: Not sure if I'm confused about your wind regen comment. Either way, both combos don't fully-regen wind. Apart from the single wind 5BD > 6A route.

Thanks a lot, I never considered some of those routes. I really need to improve my execution too.

Seconding Hellmonkey on thanks for the post, I was contemplating learning some Dizzy (my Dizzy is really bad) but now I just want to play and improve Baiken. Looking forward to the combo video too, I thought your Legend of Kyoto one was great. I was messing around with 6P AA combos last night and I was wondering what you generally do after 6P > j.D FRC, and I'm guessing the main point of this route would be burst baiting or corner carry? From midscreen I was basically just doing 6P(2) > j.D FRC > ad j.Tatami then I could IAD j.S > j.D for example. Or if someone could list a few 6P AA combos that would be great. Thanks!

This was pretty much the only conclusion I could come to, but the difference seems so very minimal. An extra wind would definitely be worth the 100 less damage or so though. I don't think it's an issue of wallstick height, I find the 6A > 5A > 6A etc route to be more problematic at lower heights.

There is also this for the corner: j.A > j.B (or j.C) > dash > 5B > 5CC > 214A > 8D > 236A > 3C (1) > frog > 236B > dash > 6A > BBL Does about 3k damage currently and you can also extend it with OD and meter for a kill combo. Handy to know if George is available. If you do George oki in the corner and land j.A > j.B to start, I'm pretty sure all you can do is the basic ...5B > 6A > 236A > 3C > 214B route etc. I personally like going for a j.B starter sometimes, you can loop George oki: 3C > 214A... j.2DB > frog > j.236C > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B > 6A > 4B > 5CC > 214B > 3C > 214A Midscreen, all you're really going to get is j.A > j.B > dash > 5B > 5CC/3C > 214B/214A It's not really worth spending wind Also, can anybody explain why the corner 5CC > 6A > 5A > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4B > 3C route is used at all? I have no idea why.

I've never been able to play pad well, so I don't really understand how people can...but anyway, I think playing stick will really help with inputs such as IAD Tatami (236956K) and TK Youzansen > RC > j.Tatami (62369S > 236[KSH] > ]K[), the general/strategy thread lists some input variations but I find this best personally. I find Baiken is far more interesting then she appears on the surface and watching Maruken play is always amazing, he really makes the most of the character.

(2B/5B) > frog > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B > 6A > 4B > 5CC > 214B > 3C > 214A You need to hit the last 5B when they're low to the ground so 4B doesn't bounce them too high. You can resummon George just at the end of 3C. I'm pretty sure this route works from j.B starter as well.

Why do you hate damage so much? D: Disregarding the usefulness of bats, the proration of 22A and 5A makes this unworthwhile. Also, the first combo in this video is a lotus setup which is far more practical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc6t1_OjWG8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Couldn't get this to work on Arakune, Carl, Hakumen, Jin, Kokonoe, Platinum and Valkenhayn. Messing around with 5C FC corner combos on Ragna: 5C FC > 214A > (dash) 2C > (frog) > 5CC > 6A > 236B > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B > 6A > 4B > (OD) > dash 6A > BBL > 236A > 236A 8D > BBL 8167 dmg Character specific. Does not work on Arakune, Carl, Hakumen, Jin, Kokonoe, Platinum and Valkenhayn? 5C FC > 214A > (dash) 2C > (frog) > 5CC > j.C > j.236A > 3D > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4B > (OD) > dash 6A > BBL > 236A > 236A 8D > BBL 8088 dmg (8568 dmg with rod in corner) Even works on Kokonoe as (frog) > 5CC wallsticks high enough for j.C to connect. Not tested but I'm guessing universal. 5C FC > 214A > (dash) 2C > (frog) > 5B > j.C > j.236A > 2/3D > 5B > j.C > j.236A > 2D > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4B > (OD) > dash 6A > BBL > 236A > 236A 8D > BBL 7868 dmg Pretty certain I was getting max damage off this. More wind and less damage then previous combo. Only listed because claimed to get over 8k damage. 5C FC > 214A > (dash) 2C > (frog) > 5CC > j.C > j.236A > 3D > 5B > j.C > j.236A > 2D > 5B > 6A > 236A > dash 6A > BBL 5706 dmg Biggest damage I found without OD and only 50 meter. I guess these should actually go in the combo thread, but at least it's relevant to the discussion here.

Some combo notes (corner) 5B > 5CDC > 5B > j.C > j.236A > j.2D etc doesn't work on Kokonoe. j.C whiffs Can make this work by using 5B 5C(9D)C to make her wallstick higher though. (midscreen) 3C > BBL only does 3 hits of BBL

I've found that 5B 5CDC wallstick 5B j.C whiffs on Kokonoe. You can make it work 5B 5C(9)DC though.

I was messing around with both the 5D and 6A timing but it didn't seem to help me in terms of exexution. As soon as I went back to my normal way of doing things I got it 5 times in a row. I figured it wasn't for me. :P I'll try delaying the 6A again though. My friend is playing Azrael atm and I'm finding it challenging. A growlered frog gives you free mixup at least, he can probably just growler you out of your mixup though :/. If you hit him with a lobelia just before he tries to growler george, george will hit him out at the end, but then he still gets projectiles... There's a couple of really good sets of N-O vs Dogura that I need to rewatch, probably check them out.

I tried delaying the wind as AnnelFrank suggested, but it didn't help me at all personally. Paying close attention to the 6A animation is really helping me though.

In regards to the 5BD > 6A > dash 5B I've found using the last sprite of the Cat Uppercut as a visual cue very useful for inputing the dash. I was having a little trouble but am now finding it quite easy.

You can use this without an account http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html Also, thanks for the combos Hellmonkey ...now to grind 236956K

Something like this is probably a good place to start. Midscreen, meterless. 2K 6P(2) 623P j.K dj.H j.236K land j.D

Oh, I've already got it on order, don't worry. It was a matter of life and death. :P Australian retail prices are relatively high even though our dollar is pretty much on par with the US. So, $100 doesn't seem that bad at all for me.

I'll gladly pay $100+ for BBCP and an adorable Rachel Nendoroid. Australian retail prices... :/