Cré-Klisan

I said to an extent, and I said they're similar in that they both have different moves that inflict Fear, I didn't say they had similar gameplay

So Adachi is similar to Liz to an extent, he has Fear inducing attacks, hopefully he won't be so bad as to have his own tier like her lol

oh I didn't say Celica and Lambda were DLC, I just thought of the possibility of getting more post release characters like them, but not necessarily DLC

I wonder if there will be completely new DLC Characters after release (not saying necessarily Margaret) similar to how Celica and Lambda are getting announced and released a while after CP's console release

we know that Marie can pull out at least two items from her bag, one is the Igor Doll/Puppet that was revealed a little while back and second is the present, no idea what that Igor puppet does, but from the trailer it looks like the present actually moves forward, could be used for Oki or mixup setups maybe? did anyone notice that weird eye at around :35 in the trailer? looks alot like Ameno-Sagiri's eye

How exactly are they boring? we have no idea what they represent or do, besides It's better for a character to at least have a drive/mechanic rather than not have one at all, like if akihiko didn't have a cyclone gauge, he'd be pretty boring without it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNdlxFqq2k Rise's English trailer, that combo with Arrow Rain looks sweet, so we can combo while the beams are going up as well! and I thought Rise was a low damage character, Hype! also looks like you can cancel her 2B on the first hit EDIT: Funny how Rise's hysterical slap ends with her slamming the opponent with her Mic

Oh man, and I thought I was hyped before, but in the trailer, when she had the rain icon, you could actually see the rain falling, I wonder if her other weather icons effect the arena in the same way, and if the weather actually effects her attacks (Specials, supers etc.) like how Rise's attacks change when the opponent is scanned, also, nice to see the lovely Kaguya! she's so pretty!

I think not only did they nerf B Mabufudyne's range, but also the freeze happenes when Thanatos slashes the opponent, he doesn't open up his coffins and release the ice like in Arena, which means if you wanna combo into Maragidyne, you need to spend 25 SP to use the SB version of Mabufudyne

An interesting thing in the Madcatz stream, at around 2:29:40 Ho-chan used 5B with the SB notes being out and both got detonated by the 5B, so depending on where the upper note is (being lower while it's traveling) we could be able to detonate both notes with 5B, which is great! also from what is revealed so far, it looks like all of her attacks that detonate the notes have a sound wave effect to them like J.B and 2B, also I'm really starting to think that ROCK YOU! is our go-to zoning tool, it seems like it has really good potential, can't wait to play around with it!

Didn't her No touching! and ROCK YOU! soundwave also detonate the notes? I think I saw Ho-Chan (Stunedge) use those in the Madcatz stream, in the corner to keep the opponent in lock, Might have to check again, also in one of Beno's impressions, he mentioned something like her 2B detonating both her notes, so that plus 5B and J.B, she has like 5 ways to detonate the Notes? could be wrong, she may even have other methods to do such EDIT: just checked the stream again (The one I posted before) at around 2:22:05 her second use of ROCK YOU! detonated the Notes, and Rurouni, you think we should update the OP by saying which attacks can detonate the notes? like her J.B?

So far based on the the streams and notes from beno, Rise seems Like a hybrid Zoner/Rushdown or morphing character, she has to zone out the opponent at first using stuff like Makarakarn and Tetrakarn, Notes (ROCK YOU!) and C Projectiles, then using D normals to scan and use either Platinum Disc, Risette Field or her awesome J.B To get in and do Mixup/Pressure and possibly get knockdown into Arrow Rain (Lightning!) But she may need to change her playstyle depending on the situation or matchup, for example I doubt you'll be able to safely use D scanning or Makarakan/Tetrakarn against a Yukiko or Yukari, since they'll be easily outzoning you, which means that you'd have to go for a more rushdown playstyle with Rise. She seems to have really good mixup and lockdown potential, with a combination of her 2A, J.B, ROCK YOU! and Arrow Rain and AoA which looks decently fast with subtle startup. I gotta say, I'm LOVING how she seems more like a "technical" character rather than straight-up zoner or any other archtype.

http://www.twitch.tv/madcatz/b/547061949 right around 2:21:10 the rise was using 2A in corner pressure, you can see the heart coming out, hope that helps

yeah I know, the one with himiko sending out a satellite projectile, but in the evo streams, her 2A involved her crouching and sending out a little heart

doesn't rise's 2A involve her sending out a heart?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6wyEqsBTzs subbed elizabeth trailer, she's so cute! few things to note: seems she got a remix of battle hymn of the soul, her auto combo in awakening looks like it changes to the awakening variations of her moves

also so far Marie has three icons related to her Weather mechanic, Sunny, Rainy and Cloudy, with only Rainy giving her an HP up gauge (can we say Regenerate?) above her SP gauge, supposedly it recovers her health like liz's Invigorate recovers SP

was it marie who used it? or someone else

It Could a variation of arrow rain, but if I'm not mistaken, Rise already has that move in Ultimax

More Marie Stuff found in the general gameplay page, her crouching hat attack could be her 2B, it looks like it has great range too