Kurokun

That's cool to hear! GG stuffs are kinda on hiatus right now, as it's main players are located on different islands. With the release of AC+ on current gen consoles, there might be some folks out there that are interested in wanting to play/try out GGAC, but whether they actually will play is another story altogether. You'll likely be on Oahu, so there's at least one person there who's down to play. There might be some others, as well. I probably will have to fly out to Oahu to game with you when you're here though, lol. But yeah, keep us posted. If you have any questions about other stuff, just ask.

2012/11/17 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpH2mID1Tg#t=7m5s Suguru :DI: vs JUN :MI: 2012/11/17 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgfY9eiP1N8#t=2m19s Celery :DI: vs En :SL: 2012/11/17 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxUI1rxdZDI#t=2m34s Teresa :JA: vs Kishimoto :DI: 2012/11/17 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aq0AGpKQ68#t=8s Kishitaka :SO: vs Kazuki :DI:

2012/11/15 GGXX AC+R Mikado singles tourney Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nth_8CP4lWE#t=3m41s JUN vs Uchizawa 2012/11/15 GGXX AC+R Mikado singles tourney Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swQRu4jwnYs#t=5m45s Marimo vs Kitamura

GGXXAC+R 11/2 Jikamu Kamikumamoto 2on2 Part 1/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bilho3gwChw#t=4m55s Noi :FA: vs Okimono :DI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bilho3gwChw#t=6m35s Eda :AX: vs Okimono :DI: GGXXAC+R 11/2 Jikamu Kamikumamoto 2on2 Part 3/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuurK375LWs#t=10m56s RL :BR: vs L :DI:

Nehle, you have the ACR mook? Also, D Fish Summon is still listed as Lv 2 in the Dizzy section of the ACR Frame Data.

There is that to consider, as well. It could be a different case altogether if it was another char instead. It'd be kinda surprising if some Ice Spike attributes got changed in ACR though.

D Ice Spike Combo Scenario: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bilho3gwChw#t=9m11s CH 236D FRC > dash f.S > 236H FRC > IAD j.2S > j.H > ... This might be a CH specific combo, probably due to range and extra launch time. You could probably do followup combo stuffs without 236D FRC and just dash up > combo after the CH launch, maybe. Possible opportunity to convert/follow-through with Ice Spike FRC Combo stuffs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bilho3gwChw#t=9m11s CH 236D FRC > dash f.S > 236H FRC > IAD j.2S > j.H > ... It looks like Ice Spike still has 85% forced proration in ACR. I think a followup air combo, or a different combo variant/ender, would've potentially inflicted enough damage here to finish off Axl, from my POV anyway. #R-style Ice Spike FRC Combo damage stuffs would be nice to have again though, lol.

Random, lol. It would be cool to play Daemon Bride again for some 'danmaku'-esque stuffs.

Updated the 2nd post and initial reference listing. Probably gonna update the post again when the rest of the move/frame data info gets translated and added to the wiki. I might even have to start putting together some info stuffs for another Dizzy-related wiki project, lol.

Dizzy GGXX ACR Frame Data - Change Notes Normal Moves f.S Recovery is now 12F (14F in AC) 5H Startup is now 12F (13F in AC) 6H Recovery is now 21F (29F in AC) FRC timing: 18-20F (1st hit), 27-29F (2nd hit) 5D Startup is now 29F (27F in AC) 2K 80% initial proration (70% in AC) j.2S 90% initial proration Special Moves 236D (D Ice Spike) Recovery is 53F Frame Adv. is -34F Floats opponent (untechable for 40F, CH for 160F) FRC timing: 31-32F Note: Other move attributes are similar to that of 236H. 214P (P Fish Summon) [*]Startup is 60F(25) - AC is 54(21) 214K (K Fish Summon) [*]Damage is 20x3 [*]Startup is 60F(27) [*]Active for 15F (3F in AC) 214D (D Fish Summon) [*]Damage is 60 [*]Lv 5 attack (Lv 6 on block) [*]Startup is 72-77F(44) [*]Staggers opponent on hit (max: 45F) *more translations are needed for other move attribute info stuffs* Force Breaks j.214D (FB Bubble) [*]Active for 199F (159F in AC) [*]Recovery is total 25F (total 22F in AC) 421D (FB Homing Pike, Spear, Knife, etc.) [*]Damage is 30x3 [*]Lv 3 attack [*]Startup is 31F [*]Recovery is total 47F [*]Homes in on opponent's location until active frames [*]1-20F in CH state [*]FRC timing: 15-16F Overdrives Necro Okotta Baai / 632146P [*]Damage is 0,40x6 (0,34x6 in AC) Gamma Ray / 64641236H Note: It is listed that the OD can be canceled (FRC), but the info is currently unavailable at this time. The 2nd post will most likely be updated with this info. That should be all of the significant frame data changes for Dizzy in ACR (the ones that were listed/translated anyway). If there is something in this list that has to be added/updated/changed, let me or Nehle know.

11/9/12 GGAC+R Central Hachiōji Ranbats Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpD3utud3xY#t=5m23s Kishi(?) :DI: vs :AN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpD3utud3xY#t=10m52s Kishi(?) :DI: vs :JU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpD3utud3xY#t=13m10s Kishi(?) :DI: vs :MI:

Bubble Loop is a YMMV scenario. Some people like to do them, while others don't. Being able to do it is one thing, but implementing/integrating it into your own gameplay is another thing entirely. I've used the Bubble Loop in actual matches, often going for multiple reps for the opportunity to inflict massive damage. Sure it's conditional (setup/hit-confirms, chars weight/hitbox), but if it has the potential to finish off the opponent, it's an option, as are most risk/reward scenarios. If anything, you gain experience in regards to doing the Bubble Loop if you try it out in actual matches, provided you have the opportunity to do so, with whatever setup you are capable of utilizing at that particular moment. Though the Bubble Loop has the potential to do great damage, especially since the combo doesn't use tension, the Bubble Loop usually ends with an air combo that doesn't allow any opportunity for KD. KD being something that Dizzy should strive to achieve, whenever possible, in order to make use of her okizeme/mixup options. You can sometimes do 1 rep of the Bubble Loop and try to end it with a KD, usually via an Ice Spike, but that scenario is somewhat specific and if the opponent somehow manages to tech the Ice Spike if it doesn't cause KD is a risk in of itself. (421) > 6H into Bubble Loop stuffs is a scenario that usually occurs after a KD and you opt to use 421 with a followup 6H as an oki option when you aren't able to summon fish, in my experience anyway.

2012/11/13 GGXX AC+R Mikado Random 2on2 Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmTZIqsII8s#t=2m20s Shinki :MI: vs Uchizawa :DI: 2012/11/13 GGXX AC+R Mikado Random 2on2 Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5O0xGXl0I#t=22s Kishi :DI: vs OSCA :IN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5O0xGXl0I#t=12m2s Hato :AB: vs Uchizawa :DI: 2012/11/13 GGXX AC+R Mikado Random 2on2 Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SULAG2A3sqE#t=8m15s Kishi :DI: vs Shizou :BA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SULAG2A3sqE#t=13m12s Kishi :DI: vs Shachiku A :ED: 2012/11/13 GGXX AC+R Mikado Random 2on2 Part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK0X2PoB2B0#t=2m14s Kishi :DI: vs Lark :MA:

Check out the Dizzy page on the DL wiki for some info on various topics regarding gameplay stuffs. The Strategy section goes over some general gameplay tactics. The Tips & Techniques section highlights some applications of concepts that are specific to Dizzy. Okizeme is something you should take note of as it's an important part of Dizzy's gameplay. If you have any questions about a particular topic/concept, post them up in the relevant threads.

GGXX AC+R matchup chart - made by JP BBS 2012/11/2

The second post of this thread currently functions as a compilation post for changes from the loketests to the arcade release. The post will likely be updated with more details later on. Most likely, if/when the frame data/move info is translated and becomes available, probably from a mook, or something. For the most part, the info regarding changes is current, with the inclusion of info/observations from the 3rd loketest and arcade release.

RE: post-Ice Spike OTG stuffs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bmZRM1GsBk#t=3m43s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcahMl1YVk#t=6m50s (in corner) ... > 236H > OTG > dash 2K > c.S > 2S You can do OTG stuffs after a corner Ice Spike in AC as well. In regards to damage, OTG > dash 2K > c.S > 2S more-or-less equates to that of a OTG 236H. (based off of a stand-alone Ice Spike scenario in AC, tested against Sol) It might be nice to use to deal extra damage to finish off an opponent, provided their life point total is low enough anyway.

I remember someone posting up a petition of sorts in a SRK 808 thread, trying to get a 3S cab to the Tilt Arcade in Hilo. I asked a friend of mine in Hilo about it sometime afterwards and he told me that no one really played it, save for one person that he saw one time. TBH though, I don't know how SF stuff has fared in Hilo over the years, prior to SF4. I remember when there was a GGXX cab (from HBB) that was at Tilt for a short while, I played it and most everyone else that I encountered didn't really take to it, save for one other person that actually knew how to play. Anything that wasn't Tekken (or popular) is foreign, lol.

You previously lived in Hilo? IIRC, I think I talked to you about some stuff before, probably back on whatever SRK 808 thread, lol. There's someone in Hilo now that's in a somewhat similar situation, in regard to SF4 stuffs anyway.

2012/11/8 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4f4fCXU5D4#t=5m26s Kishi :DI: vs FAB :PO: 2012/11/8 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KeHptSigeg#t=7m27s Kazuki :DI: vs AGF :AN: 2012/11/8 GGXX AC+R Mikado 3on3 Part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcahMl1YVk#t=24s Melon :ED: vs Kishi :DI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcahMl1YVk#t=2m1s Yaxl :AX: vs Kishi :DI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcahMl1YVk#t=4m2s Godolphin :MA: vs Kishi :DI:

TBH, I don't how arcade stuffs are doing over there on Oahu. You'd probably have to check out the other arcades to see what's still available. Anyway though, welcome to the thread. If you have any questions about GG stuffs, just ask. What FGs do you and the others play/are interested in?

Additions to the scene are welcome, provided they put in the effort and actually want to play/learn. Talk to Bears if you want to do GG sessions with him. Dunno if HVGL has any action since it moved to a different location earlier this year, IIRC. I'll probably check it out sometime the next time I'm on Oahu.

2012/11/4 GGXX AC+R Chiba Felicidad 3on3 Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6vBXGZTXk#t=15s Doc :DI: vs Fio :BR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6vBXGZTXk#t=2m34s Doc :DI: vs Sanagi :SO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6vBXGZTXk#t=4m42s Doc :DI: vs Koneko-sama :RO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6vBXGZTXk#t=9m42s Konbu :KY: vs Doc :DI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6vBXGZTXk#t=11m59s Nekoko :MA: vs Doc :DI: