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They have different timing? they all get hit by it the same to me. I'd like to note that doing something like 6A>236B>6C>22C has a different timing then doing it from 2C>214C>6C>22C. Oh and I am not sure but midscreen from 2C I managed to land 214A on some characters because 214C whiffs. I am not sure if I can do 214B instead midscreen.

It depends on when they poke on the air dash. The earlier the better.

We can backdash if we want. Don't forget that its ok to surprise people with a backdash or two, especially if you spent most of your matches not doing it. IB is always a good option.

Ok I don't have much time today so I will talk about Tsubaki for a bit. If your footsies and neutral game is up to snuff then she won't be a problem with charge. The issue with charging stars is if she hits you at the last part of its active frames it becomes a huge plus instead of a small plus, its not too hard to react to if you are looking for it, just backdash 360B it, it catches her no matter what. (Needs more testing.) You can IB 720 any string that leads to 2C/3C and you can IB 5B>5BB. Her 2C is a tough anti air to crack if you have to deal with it then elbow her or barrier. Tsubaki can 5B IAD back, I see no reason to care unless the clock is running out, just walk forward and let her do her game, you are either gonna hit her when she is near the corner or she is gonna get a good 4k on you. 4k to Tager is like 4.5k to everyone else...ouch but...ouch? I'll let you enjoy your discussion. Astaroth hook me up with that Tsubaki player sometime.

No you do not. Tsubaki is a easy match up. Just fight her like she doesn't have a DP lol. <probably trolling.

Ragna, Jin, Hazama, Arakune, Valk, and Plat have been updated.

You made several bad choices when it came to combos and overall play. But you made some proper choices as well. round 1 should never happen again. Work on that. Look at the height of his pokes when he IAD's, you can actually punish him pretty easily. 5B>6D can be backdashed easy, do it. When you jump and backdash do it because of a good read not to just do it. Welp I tl:dr my normal long rant since I have been neglecting this thread. It felt like you wasn't sure how to handle Ragna, I share your pain, took me 2 years to realize that he isn't so bad once you figure it out.

He might as well. Dacid would be perfect in MI. Too bad we don't want him, we too gdlk for WC. @ Nini: No its just dacid being dacid in the wrong thread.

I knew the Tsubaki match up. SMD!! Edit: lol dacid learn to tell time its 4:30pm. <_<

Old man Osuna.<3 I actually like where this is going, some of these idea's are so damn adorable it makes me smile.

Dustloop is at its best after every WC/EC major.

Its no real specific way to explain it. I just kept watching it done over and over again and varied my timings when I tried it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aglD1uLi9u0&feature=player_profilepage#t=6s

You are doing 22C too early. Get a feel for when you can do it. Hint: You wanna do it late.

Tagers worst match ups come from the A tiers not the S tiers lol. Hazama is his worst match up then Arakune. fucking bees. Then the A tiers as in all of them is 4-6.

Longest range but slowest 5B in the game. Nothing really strange. Its not a go to poke so don't use it as such. Best use for it is to catch jump outs and hope it CH's.

Netplay probably made me drop things like it normally does. The combo is: 5A>5B>3C>5C>6A>collider>stuff. But if its too many hits you can just do 5C>collider so you can still follow up. Or you know? 3C>gadget.

If you do a RC any smart person will just block and wait for you to do whatever. Since Tager can just wait for Noel to do something that he can react to. For example when I see Noel do 2D I don't auto sledge I wait to see if she is doing any drive mix up, if its not a projectile I 360 if it is a projectile I sledge. The reason why 2D>RC is bad because 2D can be IB'd fairly easy and you are probably in the air meaning you don't have access to 5B, at that point Tager can just backdash you or 360 punish accordingly and even if you RC'd late when you hit the ground 5B is slow enough for any Tager to churn butter to. Ask Luna I have 360A'd through 5B and grabbed him multiple times. In truth Tager risk very little to nothing against Noels drive if he blocked the first hit, Noel is the one at risk and Tager can pretty much do whatever he wants. Now if you ask me about how I feel about Noel on my side of things then it will just be a tl:dr lol.

Character specific combo on Rachel. 360B>6A only works on Rachel. 6A>3C works on everyone. 3C>6A shouldn't combo iirc. Next batch of questions?

Ok I wanna address some things. If they are reacting to a drive starter then you are going to get hit because you pressed the D button, if they are assuming you are doing a drive before hand and do sledge outright then 5B that shit on reaction. Next up Noel 2D loses to Tagers 5A/5C/sledge/j.B/all sorts of shit, its not a go to poke. Noels 5A's range is so small that if she approaches Tager with it she will lose to his 5A, seriously his 5A is massive. If you are gonna RC in drive then use a jump cancel normal and get the fuck away there is no reason you wanna risk drive on Tager, sledge beats a lot of your stuff and 360/720 beats the stuff sledge won't beat and he can reaction it. All in all you want to space Tager, hit him for fucking up then keep the life lead. Tager is out for blood he will not time you out he will kill you. (unless time is already running out.)

Makoto and Valk have been updated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LbwyIrBWDo I ramble for 10 minutes. This is for Astaroth since he likes hearing me talk and ramble and ramble and ramble and ramble.

Old man Tsuuna so rusty! Good stuff beating him. Bang becomes a pain when they figure out how to be lame with him. (No bang in america does this.)

I found this, the young Tager players here ought to read this, young as in your fairly new or you are just lost. http://sonichurricane.com/?page_id=1702

It actually makes you worse.

If it kills them yes! I don't see a reason not to if its for the kill. Well unless its Jin, for some reason 360B>sledge doesn't work on Jin anymore, I blame it on his sissy hitbox.