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No Cue Jr. you barely do that on the start, I usually get first hit. You don't go hard LMAO your Eddie isn't even Cue Jr. level. I barely break a sweat with the worst character in the game busting that ass. We can record the match so everyone can see me trouncing you for free online. We'll see how tough you is. Put you back in the retirement home like a worn out wrestler with no medicaid, Jose. LOL

Declaring War on the NY Community, Set it. I'll MM all you motherfuckers. You all ass especially Jose (I nickname cancel that ass) I beat him so often, he just retired like a scrub. I start most matches with coin because scrubs from the Bronx who play Eddie keep falling for it, Imma do it the first match and he's still gonna sit there looking Marn ver. delta. Chaz you uber ass, Drunken Chicken you mega ass. Xaq....guess what...YOU ASS!!! I want heads on my table when I'm done. YOU UNDASTAND!!! P.S. Chaz I got that good money for the BBQ. P.S.S. Dat Nigga Said EX Slayer!!

I heard about that Ex Slayer I heard from Manhattan that he's top tier. I'm watching out for that shit.

I remember distinctly trading turns on you with Tinshi at a beachhouse in Silent Hill. Sweet piece of ass, I like em young personally, not Xaq young though. I outdid the rape scene in Last house on the Left if you ask me. I definitely remember not letting that Faust leave the corner or push buttons for that matter. I had you scared to leave the house without pepper spray and a tazer. Your alright I guess ....what's your name again? Not-quite Nerd Josh? Unblockable Mist rape in the corner? Gangbang Bonanza? I forget its probably not important anyway.

Chaz, your gonna get violated like Taylor Swift looking around confused and robbed of your win. LOL I'll be there MF, and Stefan and I tried to go to the tourney by Hofstra University. I'll ask Stefan if he wants to come this weekend. I know you not talking Biscuitz, you ass and always been ass its about time, you retired. Not that Michael Jordan or Jay-Z retirement either. LOL I don't know why my Johnny vs. your Eddie matchup is like 9-1. Krochos, to confirm you did sound like an ass. lol Your Ex Slayer wouldn't last a round in Chaz's house but your welcome to try. Also when people play against "broken" charcters, they do it against tourney legal characters. Hope you come to play so we can find out what your made of. See if you can make me eat my words *shrug*. LOL Killerwatt, you welcome for that ass whipping, too. Pm anyone of us to get directions to Cell Block Rape 187.

That is true though, Biscuitz. Yeah motherfuckers need to travel more but everyone knew that every weekend was gathering time at Chaz's. That shit should have been set on your biological clock. But Chaz you good for this weekend, I know you were busy last weekend or something?

I'm down for the Guilty Gear on this one.

In there for GG, maybe TK6 and SF4.

I know people are really discouraged by this matchup and I hear you. I was the same way also, until I started fighting the matchup a lot more often. What I have come to understand is a lot of weak points on her part. I believe the mentality that I have adopted is: 1) Predict my opponent's guard cancels. 2) Kill her in three combos (which is most of my fights). You can honestly bullshit combos and they will actually do a lot of damage on her as long as there isn't too much fluff (like p,k,j.p,j.k, and etc.) 3) Play the sickest Oki scoops game there is out there. 4) FD her ground game, and coin or early MF lvl 1-2 P, her air game. 5) If number 1 doesn't work, be patient, and figure out the guard cancel they are most comfortable doing. 1) All of her guard cancels can be blocked if you do a jc normal into a jump FD, except for her FB I think. Almost all of them can also be followed up by a tk DB, and it will either hit or help you escape. The HS GC, I counter with a coin (CH)-Hs-mf lvl 2 p-Dash jump cancel-j.s-j.s-j.hs-Kj Frc-J.s-J.s-J.hs-J.d-Ensenga which is easy to do, and takes 317 damage.... so I'd practice that. The P GC can be stopped if you continue the blockstring but it is sometime-ish, one of the more impregnable GCs, but takes like no damage on you. The S GC one has a lot of invincibility so you really have to wait out the animation unless they FRC and then it doesn't matter because you can't punish it. I sometimes jump and then do a late j.hs to punish but it has strict timing and no guarantees. The K GC can be punished if its not FRCed if you have MCed or didn't any norm greater than Close S. The FB GCs are ultimate, its okay just get hit LOL, actually you can OD but its not worth it. Overall, on almost all you can coin and then block except for the FBs. 2) If you hit her, don't drop the baby. Don't go to the abortion clinic, keep all the babies even adopt some. That's all I gotta say about that. 3) Oh man, if you grab her into combo (because you can't coin her off throw), it will take about 25% damage if you do J.k-J.s-J.s-J.hs-J.d-Ensenga. On Oki, play with doing Tk Db to punish her for going for the grab or super and grabbing her into the combo. If you play that game well you will come up with significant damage at the end. About 6 Throws, kills her. 4) Her ground game is ass, just FD and you'll be fine. Just watch out for the occasional 5d. Her tatami spamming is stopped by Lvl2 MFs and coins into AA to stop her. Her Youzansen combos, don't mean dick unless she has 50% tension. 5) If you don't see a consistent pattern in GCs, just wait it out, you'll see the pattern. Or wait it out, they are bound to mess up. Also this is something that most Baikens do, when they are cornered they will HS GC out. That is when you do the coin counterhit into before said combo. Quick note: When she runs up to tick throw, don't do a low because when she stops from running she is lower body invincible. *shrug* I don't get it either, try doing 2P to be safe.

Went up and down youtube trying to find it but to no avail.

Real quick does anywhere I can find the combo videos for Johnny named Dibakon, M, Zwei Worter, Blade of Thunder, and StarTrain?

One quick tip when I am unblockable looping Baiken in the corner to make sure to hit players when you have the mist on them you have to do a low into MF lvl 2, my preference is 2K into MF lvl 2. The person usually isn't fast enough to guard cancel it even if they see it, its a fast confirm hit.

Oh man, that is one of the sources of Johnny's power that is so untapped. My friends almost always burst or try to do something dramatic just to avoid me using a multitude of crossups from JI KJ FRC. Let's just say I can't even think of typing all of the options you can make off of JI KJ FRC. Its actually a little insane, how many possibilities are out there. I will give you a few though that I use more often. 5K-JI-5HS-KJT-KJFRC... Air Backdash = ABD ...ABD once you have passed their head by a little bit, and do J.k-KJ FRC-J.s-J.k-J.s-J.d-Ensenga ...If they are crouching back dash into j.hs-into ground combo. ...ABD into j.k-j.s-ensenga ...immediately forward dash until you are a good distance behind them and KJ FRC from behind them into Air combo. ...DB FRC-delayed air dash into j.hs into ground combo. and a shit lot more. Also there are so many kind of crazy ones without the JI too.

The best time to use Johnny's 5D is in situations that it would be the last thing on someone's mind to see coming out. The shock value of that gives me a lot of successful hits personally. Though when it comes to using the impossible dust, I usually tend to stay away from it because I could either get an enkasu or a 200 damage combo with little to no tension. I think its nice if you switch it up, I'm all about switching it up but the benefits haven't really been worth it for me. Its not like he is a character like Ino that needs to impossible dust just to take decent damage after a dust. Best time to hit someone with a dust is during a tech in the corner because that is the last thing that they are thinking will come from you. Give you a quick example of that, corner throw into combo into enkasu into 5k into coin into 5d, the only tech that works in their favor is front and even then they will be in your range to be hit as an AA. Also gatlings like 6p into 5d or 2k-5s-5d also work well for me. Also to cover your ass, if you miss you can still get a hit because 90 percent of the time people will try to attack afterwards. Because the move is 0=0 for both sides that is when you do 2d into combo, far s, 6p into combo, 2hs, tk ensenga or overdrive depending on their best faraway poke they have.

If you come down on someone from jump, do J.p into j.hs and the Hs. will whiff so that you can either go for a low or a grab. The shit works like a charm I did it all day at Act everyone fell for it even my friends that see it all the time. You can also do it from KJ transport into KJ FRC or DB transport into DB FRC into it, that is what I usually do.

I completely agree and just mentioning that about Johnny's potential is why its so hard for me to put him down no matter how many times I may lose to a "just decent" Slayer, May, Baiken or Pot players. I play with him hoping that I could incorporate as many as styles in my play without compromising my own style, to make the cohesive mixture. Even though its frustrating, I love being able to come back and destroying the same person that took me out on a fluke. Its a damn shame what they have done to Johnny, my only hope being that they just put his mist recovery back to the good ol' Slash days, some compensation for having to use Tension for Jackhound, and maybe a "not-as-risky" overhead wouldn't hurt either. Let's for the next game that they fuck around and give him too much. Until then though, I'll be in the lab, or taking people out that underestimate him.

I know sometimes DC is super reckless about how he places his moves but they are a lot more precise than they come off to be. The reason he is so revered as a Johnny player is because he is one of the very few Johnny players that can win consistently without coins. I learned so much from DC in learning to play with Johnny it is pretty scary. You would be surprised how much the people I know actually think of me as dangerous as I was even without my coins now. I think Suzume is godly, and I think he is more of a practical playstyle. But there are a lot of things to learn when you start to understand DCs mindset. I think the best way to understand what is practical is truly understanding what is unothrodox, personal opinion. Though all and all my playstyle more resmebles Jonio honestly out of all the people that play with Johnny. Didn't fashion it that way it just turned out that way.

Sorry guys I actually found out from Marlin Pie himself that you can One frame jump or just plain jump out of the Unblockable. Hope this helps your matchup with Eddie in the future.

Great help to those fighting Exe Beast Spamming Testaments: When you put mist on him, on oki do 6K for the CH. or DB Transport over the Exe Beast.

Sounds lucrative.

Thank you, my fine sir. I do think though that he has a better mix up than most people take into consideration. Ask anyone I have played they will tell you. Not to sound like a pompous ass, but most of what I learned was from years of trial and error. Though I do have to give credit to 4r5 for the couple of tactics I did take from the forums.

Sorry guys I have a deep love for the ability to exercise your opinion about what you feel on this forum (which is the only real reason I still look at the forum). But I have to say something that has been on my chest for a long time. I know I'm going to catch a lot of rebuttals and criticism for what I'm about to say but I'm about to exercise my right to the fullest right now: ......*Exasperated Gasp*........I think the Johnny player community has just been reduced to a bunch sing-along crybabies. I have a lot of respect for the guys on this site. The mods have done a great job for the most part, Its just that now it feels like a conversation typically goes like this: *guy 1*: I love Johnny enough not to quit him but he isn't capable of so many things. *guy 2*: I know me, too. Honest to God, I am not picking anyone out individually, but this is a trend that I believe is the reason why Western JOs are doing so poorly. Some players to a point even sound as if Johnny himself is the reason they can't win, which I think is damn near retarded. Its like being stuck in a hole and then complaining about being stuck in the hole with suggestion to get out of the hole being accompanied by "Well if it doesn't work, it's not really our fault for being put in this hole". On the same note, I can't say I haven't been guilty of this fact, and at times I have thought about quitting Johnny. Also I haven't been to a lot of outside of the state tourneys which doesn't make me as qualified as many (but it doesn't mean I won't take on anyone to compare the ability to use Johnny). Let us face it though Johnny is restricted in the way of defense, and limited in the way of offense, but he has massive amounts of potential, and that is what we have to aim for more often. I feel like the sooner we lose the negative connotations while giving helpful advice it will help boost the morale of the community. In no way, am I trying to conduct the way people act but I feel it would be a great gesture towards a come up. We need to show that Johnny is a more competent threat then most people care to acknowledge. Johnny is considered such a menial character that he isn't even in the Eddie matchups. In works in my favor though because I win most of my first fights with people off of the premise that automatically underestimate me for playing Johnny. Also it would be great if we as a community improved, so that in the next installment we would be greater in the overall. With nothing but the deepest respect for the Johnny Community, Thanks in advance A3. P.S. To show that I am not all empty words I will be making more trips out of state, to help spread some fear. I will also start on a painfully thorough tutorial for Johnny (and I really mean thorough). Hopefully with the help of my fellow partners in beasting.

Trust me SuperFX, his johnny XP has to be level 99 by now. No offense but I doubt any Johnny players can take on Mynus, without a few tricks up their sleeves, and even then that is a stretch. I think I have almost exhausted him in the way of different things to look for against Johnny. (to toot my own horn a little bit)

Those should be just fine.

In this matchup, I suggest more than anything to be defensive, and patient because if you come in wrong even just once it is 75% damage and an Oki opportunity. The coin is a great option but it is limited you are right so when you do use it, you have to be able to guarantee yourself at least a 70% of success on connecting. One of the things that help me out the most with this match up is that most of her moves come in at you in the range where you can deflect it with either 6P or 5K. Honestly, though that is even pretty shaky now because of her FB capabilities. More than anything though I should say make sure when you get her, you keep her there. Ideally this would (with most matchups against Johnny) in the corner, and keep the 5k-hs-MF lvl2 k-coin-IAD-J.k-J.s-j.D-enkasu reps going. Most important things to worry about in my opinion would be that you should keep from getting hit with her ch J.hs, 6p, OD whale, and 5hs which should spell death for you. The problem is more than anything that you have to outsmart her by a lot more than she has to outsmart you. Practice your combos on her, and be as safe as you can. 4r5, the Holy trinity of eye rolls; that was fucking hilarious, I couldn't stop thinking about how true that was.