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@Jyosua you just need to watch some high level Jin's and copy them.

Except for Relius. I do holes on purpose to bait people into frame traps with Ignis. :3

But where you getting the insults from? Online random matches? Who gives a fuck. If they salty you doing something right. NVG? Those Team NAH school girls? You been had tournament placings. I just think the times you get blown up is when your defense just gets ripped apart, they read your reversal, and punish it. I know my wins I have had against you are when I got in early and kept the pressure on you. Getting a lucky Ignis punish against your drive. Course I have taught you how to beat Relius's stuff and his weaknesses so it's a pain for me to get a win off you unless I really play patient. Her pokes aren't ass. May not be the farthest in range but they have good speed. Noel startup: 5A: 5, 5B: 9, 2A: 6, 2B: 7 Ragna startup: 5A: 5, 5B: 8, 2A: 7, 2B: 9 Hakumen startup: 5A: 5, 5B: 10, 2A: 7, 2B: 8 Valkenhayn startup: 5A: 6, 5B: 10, 2A: 7, 2B: 9, [w]5A: 6 Relius startup: 5A: 6, 5B: 8, 2A: 7, 2B: 11

I always saw the same in his play style. He only really mashes out the starter input, but yea exactly like it's a dp to him lol. Course if I had a 19F invul 4D, and a 8F low invul 2D i'd do the same. :/

That's one of his most hated characters lol.

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All projectiles in frame data is TOTAL frames of the move as Toan stated. In a match start distance doing 236D against Relius he can't punish you if he Led Ley it without Ignis active. If she is active he can punish with a 6D barely, but the followup after that isn't anything because of the range. At best he'll be able to start his own pressure. Now if i'm reading this discussion right you were wondering if he Led Ley Lambda's 236D will a 236C punish him quick enough. The answer to that is no. He can beat the 236C with a easy 5B or a Throw after his Led Ley. If you are wondering how much of a punish he can get off of it here is some meterless numbers from testing this situation: Without Ignis: 2102 With Ignis: 2849-3612 Now if you guys are doing your 236D as a oki then he won't have Ignis anyway to assist in his punish. If you don't time your 236D well and with a good distance he can punish it with a wake-up Vol Tedo distortion (the one where Ignis grabs you, puts you into a energy ball, and explodes) clean for a easy 2364 damage.

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Don't feel bad Jyosua. I bet it felt good to see me get my ass kicked some huh? GG's Jyosua and AlxIce. Also whenever Azure sees this gg but I still can't stand the lag with you.

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Sans you too godlike.

I been had dropped that game....

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How about do in order of complexity from your tier thread going lowest to highest?

I didn't want to put the images on his wiki till I get the hitbox images. Check the Relius section on the forums for my tech thread if you want clear images. Yea dude it's unsafe as fuck. You just didn't punish it so I kept doing it. Lol

I think you are getting confused on moves. Id Lauger isn't used in blockstrings. If it came out it was a execution mistake. It's hard to punish cause it pushes the opponent back on block. It's -23 so you can punish it just you'll have to play around in training mode and figure out what you can use. If you are thinking that ...> 5C(2) > 6C > 214A one you had problems beating yesterday you can beat it during 6C startup. If you don't beat it then you'll have problems because of the distance.

Remember all you have to do is hit Ignis to make her go away. Don't use your ice as she is invulnerable against it cause Jin's ice is projectile property. Throws are harder to tech online cause of the latency. Don't forget you have 623C, if the pressure is too tough you could try it fast between a gap. Majority of Ignis's startups are 40+ frames long. If Ignis is out expect a frame trap. Simple as that. Relius's character is designed around having great frame traps instead of mixups.