BladeOfJustice7

From what your limited experience had allowed, what are your pros and cons of Xrd Ky?

Both.

Lol can't believe you... I don't even.... Then we should all feel stupid, few believed Ogawa when he said Valentine would be S tier a few months ago. But that's the case when there's a new character, it's hard to see what they're capable of until they're in the right hands honestly. It's like how Zato/Eddie players were worried about what Zato would be capable of in Xrd, and then Ogawa wrecked both Nemo and Machaboo. But Valentine is a completely new character and design, so knowing what she can and can't do, especially when you haven't even gotten the chance to touch the game, it's expected you might over hype or underestimate a character upon release. i personally didn't think much of her until recently where I can see what Ogawa was talking about before.

Never seen U-zen, got any links?

The matchup is basically the equivalent of Ky vs Venom. In other words, as Zato, she does a better job in the matchup at whatever you do, and has an overwhelming control over the neutral game that will just obliterate you. Zato must constantly force her to make decisions and try to get her into situations where she has to block to keep her from gaining any form of katame over him by making him block a sword or something since Zato can neither fly to get in close nor summon Eddie because there's giant swords everywhere either hitting him/Eddie or making him block. You basically have to slowly approach and try to catch her with a drill and if you get her to block, and you're up close, summon Eddie and try to get as much damage as you can if you can get her to open up. You CANNOT summon Eddie unless you have her blocking something or knockdown from at least mid screen, if not closer. Zato has to completely play outside of his comfort zone and how he works as a character, because he has absolutely no neutral game and cannot use most of his tools against her since she is mostly in the air summoning swords that keep him from moving, which then allows her to either completely zone him or capitalize on CH's from sword swings when he's trying to get in on her. So to me it feels like a 7:3 from what I was watching. And if what coffeeing said about Ogawa is true, then he would get obliterated by Karinchu, because Eddie is entirely useless outside of katame against her.

He seems to alternate with that a lot in GG, playing with his main and enjoying it, and playing a top tier character lol. Makes me wonder why he bothered to play and be the best Ky player in first place. I'll still hope he'll go back to Ky at one point or another. Is chonari the green Ky player who appeared in the latest Xrd 11 minute upload who bodied a bunch of Sol players? If so, I was pretty impressed. I guess Hayashi didn't like Xrd's RC system, he always thrived with the AC RC system by doing the most difficult and damaging combos in matches.

Yup, to be fair the matchup looks really ass for Zato-1. Like a 7-3 matchup from what I've seen.

Hmmmm makes sense, Sol is very strong in this iteration and arguably better than Ky, despite his own personal improvements. It kinda sucks there aren't that many powerful Ky players anymore at this point. Especially after machabo stopped playing Ky, do you think he'll go back to his original main anytime soon? Or will we just have Roz, Ain, Hayashi, and that Sya guy (I think that's his gamertag)?

No more surprise Gunflame nonsense like in ACPlusR? lol What do you mean? I know Standing Dust is slow in coming out and highly telegraphed, but if you did it full screen away would it be safe? And what about Ky's new move? Can he just do that, wiff it, backdash and send something through the Grinder with it? Actually for that matter, (since Ky lost his air Charged Stun Edge) how low can you set a j.D grinder? (In other words, can you send a standing Stun Edge/Sacred Edge through a j.D grinder if it's low enough?) What most players go for is to simply do Split Ciel, it's fairly fast and allows for an immediate grinder to be placed in front of you. Also low to the ground jd is possible too, but no one uses 5d anymore for a grinder seal. It does provide for some interesting mind games if blocked because you can always fire projectiles through it still and damaging combos in the corner if it lands. So long as the hitboxes of Ky's projectiles coincide in any way with the hit boxes of the grinders, then it'll turn into a durandal call. You don't need to back dash after a Split Ciel, it perfectly positions a grinder after you do it. Also, I take it that ground CSE no longer has the "FRC float glitch" from previous games... Also... why is Ky able to eat Bursts with Ride the Lightning? Players shouldn't be ABLE to Burst during Overdrives. Period. That's a system rule. Yes, the FRC float is gone There is a certain period of time in a combo that leads into a super which allows you to burst out of the combo right before the super enters the "unable to burst" state. I know, because my friend did that to me when I did a meaty ACR 3hs>RTL and he burst out of RTL. So now, because RTL is 100% projectile invincible, and since bursts are projectiles, he would no longer be able to burst out of my meaty Xrd 6hs>RTL, on startup frames. Someone who is more frame and system savvy could explain this bursting ability better than I can I'm sure.

So you can literally mash 4hs and grab him out of it or something? I doesn't looks easy to grab, otherwise I'm sure we would've seen that before no?

Lol durandal call is so good, in addition to it being able to go thourgh drunkard shade, it goes right through an FDB projectile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxMiqQrHMv0#t=847 Also, Ain has really leveled in skill recently, I haven't seen him play this good in tournaments/casuals like this in either AC nor ACR. I'm really impressed. @xlol, why aren't there that many strong Ky players? He is a strong character in this iteration of the game, is Ky considered boring by players?

Lol congrats on that then Any Japanese players partook in AP?

Thank you very much Blade for posting a link to the graphics article from earlier on

What do the Xrd posters from EVO look like? Is it just the GGXrd logo?

Still hoping they'll make one of Ky....

http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/images/c/c6/GGAC_Jam_632146S.png This super might just challenge Zansei Rouga and HPB as one of the coolest cinematic supers in Xrd. What moves will Jam be losing since she's "reverting" to her #R moveset? Will she still have puff ball and mach dash?

This is still a great alternative to using 3hs on oki. I will be practicing this once my monitor arrives. Any chance we could get a write up on robo-ky and/or order sol eh-sama?

Is there any confirmation that Sol Fraudguy will be the next playable character? it would give me a fourth character to sub, and it would give GG their own Dan. (half joke) It would be funny if he was playable though at some point though... Is anyone interested in translating that article? I really would like to know the process in which they made the characters looks so anime/2d despite it being 3d, and what's the arduous process of doing so.

lol Anyways, where are those Sol Badguy vs Sol Fraudguy that the article linked to from? Are they from the pachinko game or wtv? And when are we going to get a demonstration from Sin, i wanna know what his eating mechanics are like, surely papa Ky and mama Dizzy gave him more than just meat to eat. I'm wondering if he has different things to eat that'll affect how much full gauge you'll have. The heftier the meal the longer it takes for him to eat but the longer he'll stay full, or if he only has that anime-meat-on-a-stick to eat. Also I want to know if that raging storm like move is a legit dp or not, and if that screenshot I saw is his counter stance from Overture. ARGH so much HYPE!!!!

so now that i finally have this game i can start playing around with sol. what should i first work on. Learning spacing with sol, what ranges he excels in and what normals/specials to use at different ranges. Learn his most basic ground and aerial combos before you look into sidewinder loops and sidewinder loop setups. Like 5k>2hs>j.s>j.s>j.hs>s.VV, or f.s>c.s>2d>BR, basic combos like that. Learn basic block strings and how to combo off of them as well. im having trouble getting a CL GV combos, especially off of a 5h starter. how much do i got to mash damn. VR Raiden has a tutorial on how to get CLHs off of it on youtube. Don't worry too much about something as intermediate as that just yet when learning this character and this game. what match ups would u say are not in sol's favor and like what are they (ie: ky 7-3 ky favor, idk if it is that was just an example) Don't worry about that, just have fun and learning the game, worrying and analyzing these sort of things when learning a game takes away from the fun and makes you biased when someone bodies you. Overtime you'll just know what matchups are bad for Sol as you'll play and get more experienced. Right now it's just important to immerse yourself into the game and have fun. but if you're really curious, Sol is easily zoned, so any character that has moderate to amazing screen control gives Sol a hard time. Which is why I said how good is dragon install 1/2 . also for some reason i can never get dragon install 2 to come out, it's 214*4 ps right? Unless you're playing Xrd, dragon install is ass and gimmicky as hell. Don't bother learning or using it unless for jokes and/or to make someone mad by getting a random win off of it. And Dragon Install Sakkai (aka the 214 x 4 version) is even more useless and hella impractical to pull off in a match, there's a reason you haven't seen anyone use, let alone ordinary dragon install. Where do you live, I sub Sol and main Ky. If you leave upper east coast I'd be down for some matches, and it would also mean you'd have a good connection with VR-Raiden too. his Sol is hella strong. Anything else I missed feel free to add.

I'm under the assumption the new RC system would be of benefit for him, due to the time slow down. It also looks like he has his Overture counter stance, and from what I understood, he also has a reversal dp that looks like raging storm. I just wanna see what RTL looks like for him now on a 2D plain, that'll determine if I wanna sub him or not. It seems they're holding off on us seeing him use that super lol. I'm digging the fact that his lightning is now black/red and white/blue due to him becoming more accepting of his father and the strength he has. I wonder if Daisuke will give him his Overture install super as well, the projectile super they showed us, looks a lot like his attack in Overture. Ky vs Sin better have a song that sounds like Communication I actually enjoyed that song :<

Looks like it doesn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi6ely3nTZE#t=2300 Also glad to see Rozu showing up more at game-acho, it's rare to see really strong Ky's anymore in Xrd :/

Yeah I know, Ain did it on Roi, but Roi burst out of it. Since then, I've been curious to see if it works. But that would be so scummy lol I wouldn't be able to resist something like that.

Can you Blitzshield someone and then use a gold burst on them? Can you Blitzshield bursts as well? That's all I can think of.

After watching Kitajima vs LOX, I can see how this matchup is bad for Zato or almost anyone. Her neutral game and ability to convert random hits or getting you to block forces into katame situations on her opponents very quickly. I started to see how Ky can't even get time to setup a grinder seal for Stun Edge even lol. She actually might just be the strongest character in the cast. Also for story fag purposes I find it interesting now that Sin\'s lightning for the first time is both black and white, might be symbolizing his developing bond with his dad. Since in Overture, his lightning was purely black and that's when he resented his dad the most, then he was only known as "Sin", not "Sin Kiske". His attacks looks awesome. @the person who asked if he's meant for comic relief. Yes Sin is, ever since Overture, but his attacks/specials are awesome lol