Leo7

I'll be there around 7:30-7:45. Need to pick up someone first.

toronto is gdlk at 3s.

Fighting game fundamentals in THE RADICAL NINETIES:

Edmonton in the house. Didn't know there were people who lurked this thread.

Just want to repeat that the Toronto BB community is actually one of the larger offline BB communities in North America. I don't think people understand how small the scenes are in other areas. In terms of the overall level or skill of the player base though, Toronto has some room to improve I guess (this is a different issue from the size of the player base).

Edit: alright just to give a bit of respect here, i'll remove my response. I'll keep the tl;dr though: TL;DR (stolen a bit from mizuumi) 1. Stay clean/hygienic 2. Stay social 3. Stay hungry 4. Stay sodium free yo this thread is so srs now. i liek it. wake-up fuujin ninjaaaaaaaaaa

I know it seems like, at least at low to mid level play, universal fighting game fundamentals don't seem very apparent in BB. In the end though, BB is a pretty simple game and if you're playing at a high level, fundamentals do play a role in the game. BB actually isn't a very match-up intensive game either aside from a few characters, especially when compared to GG, so it's entirely possible to just learn a few combos and coast on good fighting game sense. There have been cases where players with very little prior experience in BB just pick up a character and do extremely well in the game because they have good fundamentals (examples: Tokido at SCR; apparently Koichi's Litchi as well; or even Satoshi who's a different example in that he plays a VERY basic Bang and gets by on good defense, spacing and pressure). I mean, I know you and I bitch about the large stages, the power of jumping, tech rolls, IB and all these little escape mechanisms that give the opponent room to make mistakes, but if you're using a character who's not in the bottom 4 (seriously, let's ignore that excuse of a character Noel), at a high level these characters have the power to keep people honest and punish people from mashing or mindlessly jumping. Heck, you were using Bang, who easily has the best anti-mash/anti-jump pressure in the game. Mostly I just wanted to get the idea across that this community is actually pretty lacking in terms of character match-up experience. Only match-ups most people know inside out is Tager, Tager and Tager. Reason I wanted to mention this is because Fugu and I'm sure a few others have the wrong impression of the community here. Particularly this line: I would say there are several players who have recently joined the "narrow paradigm" that are still nowhere near the level of the top players (me included). My point is that even if you join the narrow paradigm you're not going to suddenly become one of the top players. You're going to have to put significant work into the game regardless. It's going to take a lot of time. You don't gain solid fundamentals overnight. Even back in GG, there were some new players (I won't name names) who came during Accent Core, and it took at least a year before they could reach a high level. This is actually my beef with the Blazblue community, because a lot of people who play BB as their first competitive game (me included) are kind of lacking in fundamentals. Put work into the game and feel free to ask us for advice (believe it or not, we're willing to give out advice), examine your games and understand your flaws, and you'll get better naturally in offline play. He's only been beating Wu. I don't mind this. Keep it up Fugu . Stay free Wu.

Disagree with this, because if online is your only immediate avenue for match-up experience, might as well take it. Just understand that netplay does promote some bad fundamentals and habits, and understand where those habits lie and try to rectify them. Just going to repeat this point cause Pui wants to feel himself. Anyone who wins at Gety in BB is getting by mostly on fundamentals. The BB community at Gety is actually incredibly lacking in terms of character variety so everyone is actually pretty behind in terms of good match-up experience. If you're losing, you're a fundamentally worse player than the other person, which is fine since some of these people have been playing fighting games for a decade. Not saying it's impossible to improve yourself as a fighting game player and reach a higher level, but honing those type of skills require more than just practicing combos in training mode imo. I'm done for now, leaving the house for real now.

House leaving is postponed for a bit. Just want to talk about this in particular: Real talk, even Getty regulars don't have a lot of match-up experience. I'm willing to bet you have more match-up experience against certain characters than most people here because you play online all the time. It's not necessarily legit match-up experience against fundamentally good players, but you get an idea. And even though Pui's there every friday, no one at Gety REALLY knows the Carl match-up (some exceptions). You won't know the match-up without playing Pui/some other solid Carl in a long set for 100 games straight. I would say the same about Master Kou and his Arakune. IMO, you don't get a lot of match-up experience in this community, but offline play does help you in other areas, i.e. I can see from the way you play that you have a lot of netplay habits (same with NewNugget, but he improved from what I saw on Saturday).

LOL, "stalk", more like "lurk". I'm p free at BB and GG and everyone's still nice to me. Don't take it too personally if anyone thinks your ass at a game or criticizes your play, it's just a game. I'd make a longer post but I'm leaving the house soon. Peace out/Stay free/Stay gdlk/etc.

HAHAHA he's even playing a blue color. am i psychic or what. and Isa playing BB? wow.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?10687-BlazBlue-Continuum-Shift-II-Changes-NON-HELPFUL-POST-TEMPBAN&p=881666&viewfull=1#post881666 yo i'm not even playing this game.

noel's good because of buffed normals and the fact that they didn't nerf her drive damage. she still does a ton of damage midscreen thanks to her drives. it doesn't matter that her drives are unsafe, the damage is quite significant (lol 6k drive combo thanks to improved minimum damage on her supers). noel's going to drop in the tier list as time goes on though, because people will learn to defend against drives and i think the damage output for other characters is going to increase. i think hazama, litchi and tao will all have a good chance of moving up in the tier list ... again. makoto and arakune will stay good. p.s. anyone who's sane knows cs2 looks like ass. good thing i can just spend time trolling pui with plat.

MY BET. we get the game/board/nesica server/whatever. THE THING DOESN'T FUCKING WORK. boss sends it back. back to gg. boss doesn't give a shit because he's too busy riding around in his new s-class benz which he bought from the money he's made from ssf4ae. BET IT.

what was with everyone randomly showing up at gety today. lol i still can't believe we're getting cs2. "testament is so dumb i hate this game" - pui *plays testament and gets a 20+ winstreak*

i just want to state the contribution i've provided to gety and how much money i've fed to the cabinet. i've fed the cabinet to the point where the carl vs tager match-up on the cabinet is now 9.4 in carl's favor. this is what happens when you try to learn a shitty match-up. just saying.

That's fine, I'm sure most people didn't know.

You could do this in CS1 BTW.

my thoughts on cs2: :psyduck: cause i said before that i don't really like talking about my tastes in music. but uh, 5 letter bands ftw.

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. so i'm not as drunk now but i have a bit of a headache now. i like how bluenine put "doom metal" first, does that mean that's his favorite? the only metal i really listen to these days is doom metal and it's variants. biiiig fan of sleep, boris, earth, etc. back to lurking.

what is with this statement. do you even listen to metal, cause from what i remember the bands you listed a while back were classic rock and prog (p.s. why the fuck were you mofos quoting journey). lol-dy. anyways i'm hear cause i can't resist one-uping loldy and e-stroking my e-peen, i actually own this: guilty gear complete sound box. only 3000 printed. GET AM ME.

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Just want to apologize to the New England crew again for not getting any BB casuals. Really should do those next time. In the end I think Toronto ended up playing more with the New England GG players. Thanks for those games again. I was the Pot player. I'll try and be less free next time we play.