AKA

People drive all over the place to wherever in order to play around here. I have a set schedule where I work Friday, Saturday, Sunday overnights and it's hard for me to change it. There are a ton of cool, talented players around here (and most of them don't even post here, some post on SRK, others on Tekkenzaibatsu, etc), but that's because of how the scene works around here. Dustloop is just dead for us, that's all. Someone should totally host a weekend hookup sometime and you should roll through! I'll try to get some of the guys from Columbia, MO (also awesome players and duders in general) to head here as well some weekend.

Jam_vermillion: Awesome, awesome! Don't worry, most of the GG heads are old men now anyway. The STL scene is actually experiencing a revival as more people are kind of cross-populating from other games. The GGXX scene here was pretty high level back in the day (2003-2005) but has since lost players. However, the experienced players here are still from that older crew. With all of the new players picking up the game, you'll probably find a wide range of competition. There's interest here and over at this thread on shoryuken.com (which is honestly more active, but feel free to post here): http://shoryuken.com/f21/stl-garbage-viii-garbage-3-0-dont-shake-my-hand-262190/index124.html. What is your schedule like? When are you willing to come out, etc? I'm going to be setting up regular hookups for games once this semester is over, which is basically after finals are done in the next two weeks. I'll post up about it and get a head count in advance within the next week and we'll go from there. Welcome home!

I don't know who is still checking this thread anymore, but there is a GGXX:AC revival going on in the STL thread on shoryuken.com. I'm going to try to really try to bring this game back and get some new blood to play it. Post up here or there and let me know what you guys think. I don't know how many of you check both threads so I option-selected, lol.

Yeah guys, won't be able to make it. This falls right in the middle of when I'm sleeping. I'm never able to make hookups on the weekend usually because I work at night. Thanks for the confidence though, lol. evilben - We'll meet at some point, but our schedules clash pretty hardcore. Hopefully it'll happen sometime soon.

Good times and good games everyone. Good shit to people who beat me: you were cheap as fuck! Props to Bozac for yet another great tournament!

Frosty Faustings is this upcoming weekend, so I won't be able to make it if you have it then.

Sorry I couldn't make it today fellas. I talked to Ben, I'll be at the next one for sure.

Yo dude, we'd be more than happy to arrange a hookup for you guys. Just let us know what days are good for you! Are you on facebook? You could always stay at my place, I have an extra guest room, a couch and plenty of floorspace so housing shouldn't be a problem.

Looks like Guardian is going to be in town on Thursday! Post up if you are down! Evilben - Sounds like a plan! Send me your number so we can get in touch more easily. blargh - yo dude, are you going to be in STL next week or something? Let me know what's good.

Even with the patch on the (distant) horizon, who wants to get some games in this week? I'm on winter break, so post up!

As always, will be attending. Hope to see some other people from the coasts come to this one to keep GG alive! After hearing about NEC and SB, I have hope!

Loli-Zero: There's been an arc-systems scene here for a long time, but most of us are pretty dormant. There's also a large SF4 and Tekken community here. Lots of old-schoolers that don't really post much. We play mostly BBCS and T6. However, regardless of what hookup you go to, a lot of us are multi-faceted and play more than one game. We post a lot more over on shoryuken.com: http://shoryuken.com/f21/stl-garbage-vii-return-garbage-201694/index316.html and here on Tekken Zaibatsu: http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4309444#post4309444 I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights 10pm to 6am, and I have class Monday through Thursday from 6pm to 9pm. I am usually free for games during the week before Friday, after 9pm. Just post up if anybody has a day in mind they'd want to play. I can also play on XBL as AKA v2, if anybody wants to play that way. evilben: I host get-togethers from time to to time in O'Fallon, MO. My place is not really the best, so 5-6 people is all I could really have in comfortably. I have 3 TV's all ready for games, if people want to bring extra setups. Everybody attend tournaments and get to know each other! I only say this because I myself usually have a hard time making them because of work =/ I'm thinking about hosting a night were just people from the boards swing by and play some games. I know everyone wants home-turf advantage on this, or cannot make it at the time I specified, but that's up to each personal individually. What do you guys think about this?

Thank you. Thank you.

Good shit Josh and Kyohei.

/sadface Don't...stop...thinkin' about tomorrow..../wrists

Don't....stop...thinkin' about tomorrow....

Yeah, not happening for me. Again. Time to retreat under my user title.

http://www.endlessyoutube.com/watch?v=BGCxiQw0Uk8&start=3m3s&end=3m4s You're welcome.

/inhale AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I am going to try to pull some shit together to make this. I was pretty set on not going for this past week (money) but I might be able to do some scrounging and make it out. I know I said I would make it long a million posts ago, but life gets in the way. Only reconsidering because Munkey and Wuku and some others might be coming? I may not know till last minute, but whatever. For old times sake, considering I didn't go to Vegas... I'm mad scrubby now, so go easy on me.

Sometimes the arguments for making games easier, or why they're doing it, can get kind of absurd. It's obvious they want to reach as many people as possible to make money. Making a game easier is part of that, but all of it? No. Aesthetic appeal is a huge huge part of this. MvC3 will be a harder game than SF4. MvC2 had the highest market penetration of any fighting game in America outside of SF4 and SF2, really. SF2 had huge market penetration (same words again I know), therefore SF4 sold on nostalgia alone. The game being "easy to play" was a bonus because scrubs don't like getting beat up. Offense is very powerful in GG. That makes proper defense very difficult not just to execute, but to learn also (because it is highly situational). Sometimes, someone may be so overwhelmed that mentally, they cannot even get a grasp on how they lost. Did the winner do something right, or did the loser do something totally wrong? When you're in that far over your head, you have no way to learn without seeking outside assistance. The game and intuitive learning will no longer help you. The people who rag on BB having no offense compared to GG is because the defensive options for that game were bumped up when GG players are used to eternal blockstun and a super-fast game speed where the rewards for IBing were highly situational and specific. BB has stuff that you can literally IB and interrupt with whatever you want. It's intuitive and homogenized and easier to learn and compete in compared to highly situational, specific gameplay like GG. CvS2 or 3s (option parried offense) transitioned to SF4 this same way. SF4 reads like a SF2 scrubs wish-list: Easy to tech throws (that do dick damage), easy to interrupt, easy to uppercut, easy to reversal, and super high damage Super's and Ultras. Players transitioning from HF to ST had the same problems most people have with SF4 and the trend is repeating. Everybody got into SF4 because people know what it is in this country. It stayed popular in Japan because it brought all the Japanese casual players and scrubs back into Arcades, because they now had a chance vs. the super powered elite players. Even if they don't, in reality, stand a chance at winning. The revised system mechanics forced the elite to get EVEN BETTER at the game by using option-selected attack sequences and setups, plinking, option-select throws, delayed wakeup, etc. to get all the advantages they could. Even then, someone can still throw something stupid out and hit with it, and they eat a huge chunk of damage. Top players have to respect everybody now, and cannot lean on the "crutch" that is their own knowledge and experience in a game to win. To me, it's robbery, because they take away the humble learnings of dedicated players in order to make more money off of casual players that out-number them 100 to 1. Their time and effort has been literally devalued. I digress, but only a little. My final point is that nobody knows who Guilty Gear characters are. Blazblue's hardcore base is hardly even bigger than GG's was in it's heyday. SF4 meanwhile has dominated the fighting game community. Guilty Gear will never "get big" like SF4. Nobody knows who the niggaz on the box are. Everybody knows who Wolverine is. Everybody knows Ryu. Only anime fans (out of anyone) will know Sol Badguy. Think of the stereotype of an anime fan. In society, you can know a Marvel character and play a game with them in it and not be a loser. You can know who Ryu is, play a game with him in it, and you MIGHT be a loser. BUT if you know who Sol Badguy is and you play a game with him in it, a lot of people will shun you for it and classify you instantly. SO MANY PEOPLE are afraid of being classified that they hide the fact they play games from people. Or, they only associate with people who will elevate them within their niche's social hierarchy (SF4 baby! Mahvel baybee! Tekken fool! etc.), and won't try anything that makes them look less than cool. If there's ever a $50,000 televised future GG tournament, I'll eat my words and WIN the damn thing because all of my hopes and dreams would be affirmed and justified by society at large, normalizing what we do forever. Then, I'd wake up...and go to my day job. TL;DR - GG will never be any bigger than it is now (in America) because of social paradigms and if it ever IS it will be changed to do what SF4 did...and it will still fail because nobody knows what the fuck GG is. But what do I know? I'm just an old man. Ignore me if you want to keep the dream alive.

Love this thread.

Wahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! Whatever happened to the 1337? /putts off on fat scooter Also EC vs. WC is /popcorn, so please continue!

Yo dude, I am totally down for more games. Evilben, I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights from 10pm to 6am and I go to school Monday through Thursday 6pm to around 9pm. I'm pretty much booked all week and am up at night. I don't know about anyone else, but I can pretty much only play on school nights after class.

This list will not stop people from complaining about Ragna and begging for nerfs. Seriously, there are very few people in America who can play at the level that this tier-list represents. It doesn't matter how many people understand it on paper, 90% of them can't block 6B/GH. Hazama is tiziiiight.