hmm, are you sure about 2d on her 2c? I could've sworn I tried that and got counter hit for it. but then, maybe that wasnt following a tech or perhaps I just didnt do it soon as possible. I find they 4b when expecting a low, or to throw you off to hit with the overhead part of the hit, so if I 2c or 3c sometimes I get 4b'd into combo out of it. Thanx though, I'll give these a try