So I looked and apparently Nu's 2C is 9 frames start up:psyduck: I mean, I knew this thing was good, but now if feels like I basically can't beat it (2a really our only option). I know air dashing in at Nu's is risky but it basically seems to be a non-option against the "better" ones. I really can't figure out how to consistently get in on her. Ground dashing isn't an option, b/c of her 5d. Ice car used to work fairly well, but they have learned how to block and punish. I'm trying to get used to the A ice car,but really this doesn't seem much more useful then just ground dashing in.
So, how do you really get in on the better players? I know she is vulnerable after her 214D or w/e it is, but again, the better players are learning to not do that at the end of block strings. It seems like if she wants to play very safe, she can and I don't have an option for getting in.