Wizard

A lot of the tournament players who mained Noel and Rachel have rerolled characters. Like it was mentioned before, both just have too much trouble in tournament play. They have to rely on risky measures to win or fish out any damage. Is the DLC characters tourney legal by the way? Or is it just situational? Depending on the tourney, etc. If they are fully legal, thinking about switching mains over to Makoto or Platinum when she's released.

It is, I've noticed a lot of the combos at best do 3k-3.5k dmg. Where as in you can be doing 4.3k without even a haida loop or heat. Don't get me wrong haida is great meterless dmg, but Noel still has dmg without it. (Especially against the chars you can't do many reps on.) I don't think there's any FC combos on the first page either are there? Screw j.4d fatal but 4d is nice.

The only thing I hate with good tagers is the guessing game. It's like playing rock, paper, scissors but with the odds stacked WAY in his favor. Just gets annoying that I guess right five times but yet still lose because he only needs three right guesses if even that at times. I want more mix-up options... D: Sometimes my mind-games work though sometimes they don't. I tend to lose more the longer I play a single tager though, that's for sure. They just start to read me more and I lose out on options.

*Sad face* I never like this match-up. Good thing the person I play the most with mains Tager. Every douche that picks Tager (as if to counterpick me) gets a face full of hurt. Yeahhhh, I feel good. I still usually go 1 out of 3 against good Tagers though. *Sad face*

Plenty of combos can start with a or b attacks and still give about 3k dmg. I'm sure he's just talking about pressure game and how a lot of Noels' forget c is considered projectile and tend to use that for pressure.

What about D spammers? I know to block, etc. But usually there's little time to punish in between their attacks. At the same time mirror matches mess with me as is, not my favorite fight. Especially when fgts who are level 30+ who main someone else and pick them just so they can D spam. IT ANGERS ME! RAWR!!! ... And then they win. D:

It's not fair. D: We all screw up, but Tagers and Hakumens a like get four-five chances against Noels we get like two maybe three. And sometimes they don't even have to combo, their grab alone will do some damage. We all should know it, but if not here's three words of advice. Never air tech, use drive sparingly and use hit and run tactics. Simple as that. Yeah the guy doesn't have dash, but he can get in on you as easily as anyone else. Not saying the saying his dash isn't a hindrance, it is against ranged players. But against someone like Noel in my opinion hardly. However that is one thing we have to work with, if not the only thing.