Well, you shouldn't be whiffing D moves lol.
I'm talking you - nirvana - me poke game. On whiff, you hit nirvana and gtfo.
On trade, you win, even through nirvana.
iirc if you IB 5B, 5B > 2B isn't safe, but you could have me there.
5A > 2A isn't safe.
2A > 5A is unsafe.
ANYTHING > 6B is unsafe.
5B > 5C is unsafe.
2B > anything is unsafe.
IB'd 5C is unsafe period.
jcable is fine, and often times your way out as a Carl player, when playing against chars with a reversal. But this is why I said lockdown is hard. If you jumpcancel, you just gave your pressure away.
All valid points though, I like this feedback from Rawrgnas.
I really disagree with what I bolded.
Terrible Carl will not net 4k. Good ragna should be getting more than 3.5.
Let's say they're both good players, usual combo will be in 3.5 range. from here, it's what you get from it that makes the two different.
4k is not "easy," it's common, but not easy. Ragna will get it easier than Carl will.
He will also get more meter, and he will get corner + most likely oki.
Carl's oki game isn't that strong, and it's midscreen usually.
In the corner, yeah, you can cover 3 of 4 tech options, but midscreen is 2 covered for the most part.
With Ragna, you have legit oki, where I tech and am standing. I don't get a safe neutral tech, and can't roll period, and have no reversal.
Also, Ragna has a stupid good abare game.
Carl isn't an abare char, really. So there's not much to be said about him there, I guess.
IB Cantata is situationally viable, but not worth the risk because it's not frame 1.
If you get hit, super flash will appear, and gear won't even come out. Cantata is a terrible "reversal," since at best it trades, at worst you don't even get it and you've wasted meter.
Ragna can gatling any normal into ID and RC it to be safe from that anyway. Then he just IB's for most of his meter back.
Put Carl in the corner and play smart, and guaranteed he'll have to burst.
Momentum is a huge part in this matchup. (Nothing to do with matchup charts or anything just my opinion.)
I think they've both got the tools to trump the other one's tools.
It just matters when and how they're used.