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its not ragna its hakumen with a red jacket

I didn't say 360 only :P

Yeah. I didn't know it was universal though. I just saw a clip of someone barely avoiding a Hazama chain and then somehow breaking a throw.

Usually the person will get teleported into the person's throw if that happens though. The guy doing the throw does not switch directions. Wasn't there already a glitch with Hazama and his throw found out.

Nu's up close tools were really good too. She had her old 2C. I don't know if Hazama would have stood a chance outside of just nipping her to death with snakes.

damn everyone getting in on this toan hurry up and join and body everyone

Some things were just not meant to be done. You could just neutral tech 720 and it would be the same thing. I knew it would come to this. If only I could play Brice and see what he does. I tailor a lot of my tactics to a specific player. For Spark Bolt, you should jump it if you can. Countering it is just for throwing salt on their fries. When you try to counter there is a chance you'll mess up the timing and eat a combo; even if you are successful, you are still magnetized. So you might as well jump. Worst case scenario, you end up magnetized, which is what would happen if you landed the counter anyway. But at least if you jump and they miss you don't get magnetized at all. Now, if they do it point blank range, and you smell it coming, THEN the counter is a good idea (or just Kishuu under it) so you can combo them. A lot of the match just comes down to pure yomi. Most high level Tagers are already used to dealing with zoning, so they will find a way past yours eventually. Even if they don't get in, they will steadily push you back towards the corner, until they are at a favorable range. At that point it comes down to who can read the other best. There is no way you will keep them out forever. In fact, I've gotten a lot of success out of rushing THEM down. If you try to zone them, you will just peck away at them, until they eventually nip you once and make up for everything you did and more. Suddenly you are screwed and have to go attack them anyway. But if you go in and press your advantage when you knock them down, you can finish them before they have a chance to gain control of the situation. It's kind of like fighting Lambda: if you have the health lead, would you just sit back? NO, because she will find a way to land a sword eventually and then you'll be losing anyway except with less time. You have to finish her while you have the chance. The same is true for Tager. You can't just sit on your life lead. Fighting Tager up close is like surfing a tidal wave. You can be doing amazing and then get wiped out at any second. But it's better to put him on defense and leave him dealing with your mixups and make him take risks to get out of your pressure, than to be stuck in Gadget Finger mixup. You can counter any of his slow moves, and make him afraid to push buttons. You can Hotaru any random mash outs. You can jump out and bait his 360s. If you touch him once he will lose 5k and get thrown into the corner. This all goes back to momentum. You don't want to let him ever gain any. If he touches you, ever, then burst. Even if the combo is not that good you don't want to get magnetized into Gadget Finger mixup. Anyway, the problem with my advice is that it has been a long time since I have fought a tournament level Tager, so the things I am saying could just be because I am getting away with things I shouldn't. I have gotten pretty used to dealing with Tager's tools though. But defaulting to my experience with my brother, I remember all the times I tried to rely only on zoning, I lost. It was only after I used my keepaway to set up some offense that I would more often than not. (But even then, one backdash into 720 and you are in pain.) It's still true that making one mistake is pretty much the match for you. That is why conditioning and reading their next move is important. If you condition them, then at least you can have a greater expectation that they'll do one thing rather than another, and it'll help you set up more mixups. If you can make them hesitate, it will let you get away with more things that they would normally IB and try to punish.

dont make me start

i am never going to win another match again Looks like pretty much half the combos are just one combo over and over in CP for Hakumen. Remember how we thought Hakumen was screwed? That was because half his combo routes were sealed off. We escaped complete disaster because he gains enough stars for us to blow 5 or 6 on a combo for good damage, but our minimum amount of stars needed for a good combo is higher now. Although if you can get them airborne then you can still do the loop without using a lot of stars to launch them. Can he do Renka (1) > Kishuu and go into the loop? If so then at least 3 stars is enough for 3kish. I think I saw him do it but I can't remember.

-9 after IB or normally?

good loser peanut-bean

a lime came with my dinner i can only think of one thing

That is more me showing off than anything else. :P What's this unblockable Shippu set up? And every time I try to 6C I just end up 360'd or 720'd.

Having mics is a pro on XBL since you can actually talk to people who are not dbags.

He grabs you for a 720 and never comes back down.

Tager + gigantic chains to grapple the enemy from full screen and pull them to him.

^I can just feel the DPs coming somehow. Well you would have won more if you played Haz the entire time. Tager is like training weights. Although then again you dropped less game winners with Tager. :P Maybe Hazama has been holding back your true Tager potential this entire time.

I must reflect upon my shameful defeat at the hands of the chimp. GGs everyone. What do you mean gold :P Ctrl, your Tager seems more focused lately. Probably from playing Osuna. I see less random stuff and more legit setups. Also you somehow ALWAYS know when I am going to jump out of Gadget Finger. Badlime was 2 strong as usual.

Also I should sleep soon probably after the last set of matches here. One more go around.

Yup. Jin. The most random shit.

wow what the fuck happened i looked away for 3 seconds and tager got executed

> Random BS Yeah that is what always gets me with Jin. "He's not gonna do DP again!" ~> get hit The original scumbag character.

good lemon

outgimmick'd

gg me 2