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Arcana Heart 3 - Out Now, Best Fighter Ever
Mightfo replied to MouseWonder's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Hm, yesasia hasn't told me my copy is shipping or anything yet. :x -
I know, I'm not blaming you,(sorry, I should have worded that better, but the robo ky is there for a reason) I'm just saying experience is needed to get anywhere, and it's not like everyone's played your carl that much or at even intervals. Though, those of us with 360s could have been playing you online some I guess. Edit:Actually, now that I think about it, part of the reason I said that is because IIRC at the last few meetups you didnt want to play carl against us.(Probably because you played him online a lot?) But don't worry about it, play who/what you want. Also Oso who do you think you'll run in MvC3? Even if I'm worried about AG the game still looks it will be fun as hell for at least a while. Might run Morrigan/magneto/phoenix.
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also if anyone would rather me contact them about meetups on AIM, email or IRC if that is a reliable medium for them instead of texting, just tell me
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kira has an air command grab(though it's a j236 instead of j360) ;p and BODYSLAMM
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by unblockable setups i mean the assist coming in while clone keeps inescapable pressure and then does the appropriate low/high. It can crossup ambiguously theoretically though, yeah, but I don't know how good morrigan's crossup boxes are in MvC3, so.. :P The main thing is you do 2aaaaaa and rape mashing and then you go into an overhead or a delayed low into a good combo as like the most raw reset possible, right back into hard pressure. You better hope you're ryu when you're trapped in that.
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I dont mean finding new properties, I just mean getting experience. Also not that many moves are "changing completely" using them at the right time is still, well, using them at hte right time. :P Is haku really that different outside of combos? Yeah, 1-2 moves are a little faster or whatever, he gets different rewards off parry, and more moves will eat jumpers, but his spacing and shit will be the same. It's true that AH2 exp matters a lot more when you havent played the series before at all though, yeah. I'm not saying we should work our asses off for PERFECT EXECUTION ON GDLK COMBOS or very specific option selects and oki setups, I'm just saying that playing the game moderately for a month in BBCS after BBCS2 is out will get you 80% of the same skill that a month of BBCS2 would, aside from combos. The spacing and stuff is the same. As for trollchan, who I have no other reason to respond to: I'd go to a close enough tourney that has Pozer or Jan, but I think that comment comes from the Quakecon incident when I decided not to donate money to the tournament because it would just be throwing money on Pozer's lap, especially since that was back in AUGUST and we were new as hell to the game, especially compared to arcade-chans like Pozer. It was the correct decision considered how shitty that tourney was. And you know what? Yeah, i'm not going to travel several hours most of the year to go to a fighting game tourney, even if I would like to play really good players and get my ass kicked because I learn well that way. Why? Spoiler alert: College is more important to me than fighting games, and I am anal about spending my time wisely with that in mind. Additionally, it would take a lot of matches for me to really learn from people a lot better than me, which I may not have the time for in a trip, so simply playing MORE against people I still learn decently from like Ronin/Oso is simply more logical. ALSO, RONIN, NO COMMENT ON THE AH3 HYPE POST? ILL EVEN LINK ITAGAIN http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9422-Dallas-Fort-Worth-Thread/page236 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9422-Dallas-Fort-Worth-Thread/page236 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9422-Dallas-Fort-Worth-Thread/page236 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9422-Dallas-Fort-Worth-Thread/page236
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nobody cares what you say, nobody wants to play with you. stay lonely and free.
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MAKING ANOTHER POST BECAUSE THIS POST IS SO HYPE IT DESERVES ITS OWN POST, DEAL WITH IT WHAT THAT JUST WONT DO MR ALZHEIMERS YOU'RE PLAYING FRIGID. HE'S PLAYING SOME CHARACTER YOU FUCKING HATE FIGHTING WITH YOUR MAIN. WHAT DO YOU DO? WHINE LIKE A LITTLE GIRL? NO, BITCH! COUNTERPICK ARCANA! WANT A SEXY POKE? CHOOSE PLANT ARCANA! IT'S GOT A 20 FRAME MOVE LIKE HAKU 4C WITH + FRAMES AND A VACUUM EFFECT. HOLY SHIT. HATE BEING COUNTERHIT? CHOOSE FLOWER ARCANA, NEVER GET COUNTERHIT AGAIN. SERIOUSLY, THATS A PASSIVE IT HAS. LIKE RAPID CANCELLING A LOT? CHOOSE TYR! YOUR SHIT GETS STRONGER, ACROSS THE WHOLE MATCH, THE MORE YOU DO THAT SHIT! WANT TO TRIP THEM UP WITH BUBBLES THAT STOP THINGS FROM BEING CANCELLED WHEN THEY HIT THE BUBBLES, FUCKING UP THEIR POKES AND SHIT? CHOOSE WATER ARCANA WANNA DO SOME TAGER BACKDASH EVASION SHIT? CHOOSE TIME ARCANA, WHEN THEY HIT YOUR BACKDASH'S INVULN FRAMES THEY GET CAUGHT. TIME ARCANA ALSO GIVES YOU GDLK OKI SETUP POSSIBILITIES AND DAT MIXUP. WANT MORE ZONING, EVEN IF YOUR CHARACTER ALREADY HAS A BUNCH? CHOOSE ICE OR LOVE OR SOUND OR SOME SHIT WANT TO CONTROL 3 CHARACTERS AT ONCE? LIESELOTTE+LIESELOTTE' S DOLL+DARK ARCANA. WHAT THE FAFHUAWFHVOHWLSDHGLSDFL WANT GDLK OKI? CHOOSE LIGHTNING ARCANA, DO A BIG LIGHTNING SUPER THING AND KEEP THEM BLOCKING. FUCKING AIRDASH OVER THEIR HEAD SO THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH PROJECTILE CROSSUPS, MAKE THEM SALTY! OR CHOOSE WATER ARCANA. COMMAND GRABS+MEATY PROJECTILES AWW YEAH WANT AN UNBLOCKABLE SETUP? CHOOSE PLANT ARCANA FOR DEM LOW-HITTING PLANTS YOU WANNA DO GDLK DAMAGE, LIKE A BANG COMBO WHEN THEY'RE POISONED? CHOOSE EVIL ARCANA. GET DAT POISON. IT HAS A TELEPORT AND A COMMAND GRAB THAT DRAINS METER, TOO! THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT USING HEAT TO GET OUT OF PRESSURE? FUCK THAT SHIT, THEIR HEAT IS GONE. YOU LIKE MINDGAMES WITH CHARGEABLE 5Es/2Es? PICK EARTH ARCANA, GET DAT AUTOGUARD, OR PICK LIGHTNING AND GET DAT CLASH. I DIDNT EVEN MENTION ALL THE ARCANAS OR HALF OF WHAT THEY CAN DO, HOLY SHIT. ITS ARCANA BABY! ONLY 2-3 OF THE 23 ARCANA ARENT WORTH USING, AND EVERY CHARACTER IS VIABLE AS FUCK. IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR A TIER LIST, ILL TELL THEM IT DOESNT EXIST, BECAUSE JAPAN DOESNT EVEN AGREE ON HALF OF THE SHIT BETWEEN REGIONS. SHIT DONT MATTER. NOT TO MENTION YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO COUNTERPICK TO PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO YOUR ARCANA. MAKE DEM SETUPS THE GAME'S SYSTEM MECHANICS OWN TOO. -CLASH SYSTEM OWNS, CANT JUST MASH DP DURING IT OR THE SAME MOVE TWICE IN A ROW, AND ITS IMPORTANT FOR GETTING OUT OF PRESSURE. DAT CLOSE RANGE GAME! -HEAT DOESNT GO AWAY, IT JUST GOES ON COOLDOWN, AND YOU KEEP HEAT BETWEEN MATCHES SO USE THOSE DELICIOUS PROJECTILE OR SETUP SUPERS ALL DAY! GET DAT DAMAGE IN THE FINAL ROUND! -BURST/CANCELLING USES THE SAME METER, WHICH TAKES LONGER TO REFILL IF YOU BURST THAN THE OTHER TWO. DEEP FUCKING GAME. IF YOU USE THE CANCEL WHEN THERE'S NOTHING TO CANCEL, YOU GET A LONGER VERSION OF THE ARCANA'S POWER UP. DID I MENTION USING THE INSTALL/CANCEL MAKES YOU MOVE 15% FASTER? OH SHITTTT. -HOMING CANCEL SHIT WITH YOUR HEAT, YOU CAN SOMETIMES DO THAT SHIT EVEN BEFORE IT IS BLOCKED, LIKE WITH ARCANA SPECIALS, LIKE PROJECTILES! THROW OUT A PROJECTILE THEM ANIMOOOO ACROSS THE SCREEN! -NEUTRAL THROWS HAVE MORE TECHABLE TIME BUT ALSO LEAD TO MORE DAMAGE THAN 4/6 THROWS. FUCK YEAH. AND LASTLY http://arcana.mizuumi.net/kagami/ah3infopages/Characters/ca_doro.html HERE YOU GO, OSO. GET FUCKING HYPE.
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>bbcs, bbcs2 >lists ssf4 Ever hear of this thing called SSF4AE? I don't blame you, but really, this is a silly mentality, and it's something that hurts the skill of scenes. For example, if you fight my Litchi now and learn how to deal with her in neutral situation, I guarantee you 90% of those skills will transfer to BBCS2, because her staff neutral is quite similar, just D is better and 6c is more useful. Same goes for her mixup, or utilizing Hakumen's parries properly, or blocking well. Getting used to the game, or to most characters, will still mostly help you in BBCS2. Will how much you jump/how you think about bursts and guard crushing change some in BBCS2? Sure, but learning to use your meter instead of ending each round with full meter, for example, will still serve you extremely well in BBCS2. If someone(like me) never thinks about rolling properly mid-battle because their mind is occupied with other shit, then learning to do that in BBCS is valueable as well. Don't get me wrong, the character changes for neutral and pressure for many like Hakumen, Bang, and Noel are significant, but learning to not press the wrong button in X situation will stay the same 80% of the time. Ragna's neutral game is the EXACT SAME for example, he just got combo changes. And again, listing SSF4 and AH2 after saying that is silly. Also, not sure if this is getting "shafted" so much as getting lied to back in summer, but it's still not nearly as long of a wait as BBCT->BBCS or..well, any previous rebalance ever. lmao i love how your two gifs sync perfectly on my screen though Nobody's going to get better at figuring out carl and not being "looped" if you don't even play with us. BBCS2 won't make a difference in us learning most of the neutral or mixup game or carl, nor will any other game that you end up quite good at if we can't play you enough and simply learn. enjoy never playing anyone from dallas because nobody likes 12 year old trolls. stay banned. <3 stocking's hair I don't see any unblockables there, just beating out mashing... That's my other concern with marvel: It's likely that 4-8 characters will be a lot stronger than the rest, and the whole "i get to play my favorite dad" appeal goes down the drain. We'll see, though.
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about to triple post just so i get on a new page, get at me
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Gonna find out if i can host by tomorrow night. Will probably be saturday if so. As for Blue, It's also possible some people could house you for a night when that comes up.
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! i am a homeworklord on weekdays. yeah, i'm still going to try it. i will rent it from gamefly asap. i tried sf4 and ssf4 and i had less reason to be excited about those and more problems, haha. i am not going to dismiss it out of some sort of capcom hateboner or theorymetagame madness.
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http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9917-Marvel-vs-Capcom-3&p=907826&viewfull=1#post907826 what the fuck is this shit i take it you think it would be wise for me to not expect every game to let me be litchi pressure/flexibility wise then, rofl also i just realized a big weakness of staff litchi: fastest non-jab is 11 frames, her 5b. this makes punishing stuff like jin's ice car A harder, especially when there's a teensy bit of pushback
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I guess so. i just want an actual, intelligent defensive option, maybe a meter-based one, to deal with the insanity, not "lol i push you full screen because i pressed three buttons during a relatively large window"
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... What the fuck are you even talking about? How old are you? What does "I don't like this because it allows people to end solid pressure with jack shit effort" have to do with "YEAH IM SOME RANDOM STRAWMAN WHO LIKES TURTLING." Do you even know what pressure is? You think it's acceptable that someone can easily just turn being forced to block into getting a full screen of distance? That's more like turtling than anything fucking else. Takes a ton of the consequence out of blocking. Way to white knight without any regard for logic, wow. I love to pressure, so I love to turtle! Brilliant! Footage of forward-moving moves negating it? I'm sort of doubting that considering trish couldnt move forward at all when her projectile was the thing being blocked and not even her. The assist thing is a nice note though.
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it's retarded in a bad way, unlike retardedfast crossups ;p but seriously, one AG'd poke(which seems to be quite common)=fullscreen. wut
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i dont see how "chip damage is a big deal" justifies "hi im going to just push you across the entire screen because of one blocked poke and prevent any meaty pressure whatsoever"
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does anyone have anything to convince me that advancing guard isnt retarded in this game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGC1PEDick#t=2m50s seriously, wtf And later i see shit like dante's 2a-esque move get AG'd across the entire screen after just one damn quick poke. I understand that they want a universal defensive option to help against retardedstrong mixup, but this is just silly
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I would be a lot more hype for MVC3 if advance guard wasn't so fucking retarded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGC1PEDick#t=2m50s And later, dante does a fucking 2a-esque move once and gets AG'd across the screen, wtffff i understand there should be a good universal defensive option since mixup and shit in this game will be so retarded, but this is overkill At the least, I'll have it on rent from gamefly.
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GG is fun, but we're dependent on Jet and Ronin for setups, and only Jet/Ronin/Cheebz/Supaa/Transient have PS2 sticks IIRC. ah3 owns and most people are hype for it, and will get extra hype for it soon enough. i'm gonna run that shit a lot. I can't say whether I'll be able to host or attend this weekend at this point, give me a day or two. However, I will do pretty much everything I can to host the weekend after, when I'll have AH3.
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arcana heart releases in less than a week my body is ready i ordered 2-5 day shipping, so will hopefully have it by the weekend of the 21st daw, i wanna seeee I think I linked that earlier in the thread.... In any case, hopefully more people see it this time so awesome.
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i guess i will just be vaguely ready tomorrow and if anyone shows up i will play braybroo with them(or something else if they're up for umineko/kof2002/whatevf/ssf4) if you arrive i will probably be in the middle of hokuto musou or tales of vesperia, both of which are fucking awesome. If you're arriving past 5 pm, please text me in advance.
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If you find out, let me konw. You mean..Astral vision or whatever, where there's another morrigan doing her same movements? That's to eliminate pushback and allow for a series of easy resets with good damage, and I suppose to help her get in in some instances. Eat mashing like a pro, reset all day with gatlings that dont combo due to proration so if they blocked poorly they're fucked, never let them leave until it wears off. In VSavior if you get hit it goes away, though.I'm also not sure if it's really worth it in MVC3 since you can easily combo->air combo->otg super for like 60% hp, and it seems to me that the astral vision setups done so far only end up netting you about 50-80%, so not that huge of an advantage..but we'll see. ..AFHJDLKSSDFJS ACTUALY. NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT. IT IS PROBABLY A PISS EASY WAY TO SET UP SOME UNBLOCKABLES. AWFJAWFKFW: 2AAAAAAAAA LOW+HIGHASSIST ALL DAY
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lmao someone on another (non-fg) forum said that x-23 and psylocke played the same i pointed out they shared no moves he called me "rainman technical"