Serious_is_Me Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I just got Xrd (PS4)... and I know that fighting games requires a stick... I thought about buying Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai (PS4) which coming in March 13. It's crazy hard for me to find an arcade stick, because you can't find them in my country, and most sites don't ship here, or if they do, they will take like 60$... I can get the stick for 170$ with shipping which is not too bad... how is Hori in comparison to Madcatz? and if it matters, im planning on using Chipp and Faust. is this stick worth investing? I know the price is maybe a little high, but unfortunately, I don't think I have any good alternatives
Rele Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Fighting games don't require an arcade stick. There have been plenty of players in plenty of games who have been successful with pad just like there are players who are successful with stick. It just comes down to personal preference. The biggest reason to learn stick imo is that you can play on any console afterwards (and cab if you get the chance). With that being said, 170€ for a stick is alright. Hori vs Madcatz... I won't get into too much detail here, but both have their advantages. In general you won't notice too much of a difference unless you start going into the technical details, but that shouldn't bother you as a beginner. Both are fine.
Clousephinat Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I've always played GG with pad and I had no problems playing with the characters I have fun with, whoever says that is impossible to play well without using stick is lying, and Xrd is not that difficult anyway as it was before.
Shadowfury333 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 The only reason I ever got a stick was so that playing fighting games wouldn't stress my thumbs too much, but that's mostly because I work with my hands so ergonomics is really important for me for the long term. I find using my fingers equally helps avoid fatigue and soreness. If a pad is comfortable for you to practice on for an hour or so every day, then that's definitely the cheaper option. If you find yourself at a tournament or a locals and people are playing friendlies, just ask a stick player if you can try their stick. That way you get some idea of how it feels. Bear in mind that your muscle memory will be way off at first, causing you to totally screw everything up, so don't worry about performance, just worry about comfort.
Hollysmoke Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I just got Xrd (PS4)... and I know that fighting games requires a stick... I thought about buying Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai (PS4) which coming in March 13. It's crazy hard for me to find an arcade stick, because you can't find them in my country, and most sites don't ship here, or if they do, they will take like 60$... I can get the stick for 170$ with shipping which is not too bad... how is Hori in comparison to Madcatz? and if it matters, im planning on using Chipp and Faust. is this stick worth investing? I know the price is maybe a little high, but unfortunately, I don't think I have any good alternatives The winner of SF IV at EVO last year was a pad player. If he can do it, with practice anyone can. If you're new to FGs in general, I wouldn't invest in a $200 stick. The Madcatz Tournament sticks are fantastic and regularly go on sale. You can probably pick one up in a couple months for ~$100. If you invest more money in a stick, high quality parts are worth if you play and practice one game A LOT, or play a variety of arcade games (or both, in my case. Pac-Man Championship Edition too much fun on stick). Chipp and Faust are relatively easy enough to play that you don't need a stick. If you said you wanted to learn Zato...ehhh heh heh...then it'd probably be easier on your hands.
Serious_is_Me Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 The winner of SF IV at EVO last year was a pad player. If he can do it, with practice anyone can. If you're new to FGs in general, I wouldn't invest in a $200 stick. The Madcatz Tournament sticks are fantastic and regularly go on sale. You can probably pick one up in a couple months for ~$100. If you invest more money in a stick, high quality parts are worth if you play and practice one game A LOT, or play a variety of arcade games (or both, in my case. Pac-Man Championship Edition too much fun on stick). Chipp and Faust are relatively easy enough to play that you don't need a stick. If you said you wanted to learn Zato...ehhh heh heh...then it'd probably be easier on your hands. I know that Sticks are not must to play fighting games, but I played a lot of Tekken 6 and TT2 online, and doing things such as EWGF/OTGF and wave dashing is just slaughtering my fingers, that's the reason I stopped playing Tekken... even Rekkas on SF are just hurting your thumbs with a pad and it lowers the level you play... I know Luffy won with a PS1 pad... but if you are being honest with yourself, pad can be pain to play with... The only fighting game I can think of that is not requiring a Stick is MK, because combos are way too easy and there's not a single hard input in the game besides Kabal's iaAGB. The only reason I ever got a stick was so that playing fighting games wouldn't stress my thumbs too much, but that's mostly because I work with my hands so ergonomics is really important for me for the long term. I find using my fingers equally helps avoid fatigue and soreness. If a pad is comfortable for you to practice on for an hour or so every day, then that's definitely the cheaper option. If you find yourself at a tournament or a locals and people are playing friendlies, just ask a stick player if you can try their stick. That way you get some idea of how it feels. Bear in mind that your muscle memory will be way off at first, causing you to totally screw everything up, so don't worry about performance, just worry about comfort. That's one of the main reasons... I still remember the pain on my fingers from playing lots of Tekken and even from playing Smash Bros on the 3DS...
Shadowfury333 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Oh, wow, then definitely get a stick. Anything above $50 will generally not be crap, so you don't need to completely break the bank when first getting into it, and Hori, Madcatz, and Eightarc are all considered good manufacturers to go to. If possible, try to find as broad a compatibility as you can. Something that works with just one console is probably too limiting compared to something that works with all current and last generation consoles and on PC. I'm not sure how easy those are to get cheaply, but PS4 sticks might work on PS3. PS3 sticks will only work on PS4 games that support them (Skullgirls will, not sure about others, drivers are free to use but Japanese companies are notorious for being reluctant to use outside tech). There are adapters, so this isn't the biggest deal, just bear it in mind.
Serious_is_Me Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 Oh, wow, then definitely get a stick. Anything above $50 will generally not be crap, so you don't need to completely break the bank when first getting into it, and Hori, Madcatz, and Eightarc are all considered good manufacturers to go to. If possible, try to find as broad a compatibility as you can. Something that works with just one console is probably too limiting compared to something that works with all current and last generation consoles and on PC. I'm not sure how easy those are to get cheaply, but PS4 sticks might work on PS3. PS3 sticks will only work on PS4 games that support them (Skullgirls will, not sure about others, drivers are free to use but Japanese companies are notorious for being reluctant to use outside tech). There are adapters, so this isn't the biggest deal, just bear it in mind. Pre-ordered yesterday, the Stick is officialy working on both PS4 and PS3, I don't plan on playing any fighters on PC/360/X1, so it doesn't matter... but im sure that I can make it work on PC with a regular DS3/Sixaxis driver, if somehow I will need it for PC (very unlikely) The detalis are here : http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00RZ7T8N6/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item I can't believe, they raised the price just after I ordered... lol, by 30$! thanks god I payed just in time.
Hollysmoke Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 For the most part, all the companies function about the same: They make their own proprietary case and motherboard, bringing in pieces such buttons and stick from Japanese manufacturers on the cheap, and put it all together in a nice, neat package so that it's cheaper than importing from the East. Madcatz has done wonders for making sticks cheaper and accessible stateside, and I use a TE-1 stick personally. I got the SC V one for $80 and then modded the artwork myself. If it's a comfort thing and you're not getting used to pad, keep in mind there will be a transitional period while your hands get used to stick. You may not like it, and I don't recommend jumping into fighting games with it right away (keep to simpler games like Pac-Man or Space Invaders on PSN) so you feel out the stick. Also you said "my country" but you didn't specify which country that is; maybe others in your area might be able to toss some info your way as well.
Serious_is_Me Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 For the most part, all the companies function about the same: They make their own proprietary case and motherboard, bringing in pieces such buttons and stick from Japanese manufacturers on the cheap, and put it all together in a nice, neat package so that it's cheaper than importing from the East. Madcatz has done wonders for making sticks cheaper and accessible stateside, and I use a TE-1 stick personally. I got the SC V one for $80 and then modded the artwork myself. If it's a comfort thing and you're not getting used to pad, keep in mind there will be a transitional period while your hands get used to stick. You may not like it, and I don't recommend jumping into fighting games with it right away (keep to simpler games like Pac-Man or Space Invaders on PSN) so you feel out the stick. Also you said "my country" but you didn't specify which country that is; maybe others in your area might be able to toss some info your way as well. Israel.. I don't think the other neighbours around me would like to help me lol... I am used to pad (PS2,PSP,PS3,PS4), it's just pain to play fighting games with pad...
Xtra_Zero Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 If you take it seriously and dedicate yourself to it, you'll be fine. Just start using it and don't look back.
Dude Butts Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 If you take it seriously and dedicate yourself to it, you'll be fine. Just start using it and don't look back. couldn't have said it better myself. exposure is all you need.
saber Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 The new Hori stick is good and Madcatz is making a new one.
felirx Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 It will take you a month or two to get back to as good as you were with a Pad, depending on how much you grind lab. As long as you have good Sanwa or similar parts, the only thing that matters in the end is in which Systems it works on.
Serious_is_Me Posted March 14, 2015 Author Posted March 14, 2015 OK... thanks for the feedback I already bought the Stick - HORI Real Arcade Pro v4 Kai... you can close this thread.
Hollysmoke Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Israel.. I don't think the other neighbours around me would like to help me lol... I am used to pad (PS2,PSP,PS3,PS4), it's just pain to play fighting games with pad... I found some information on a Madcatz distributor in Israel. Maybe you can contact them and they can hook you up. P.S.D.S. Enterprises LTD. – K.S.P Group 16 Keren Hayesod st. Tirat Carmel, 39026 Israel Tel: +972 508805588 ksp.co.il
Serious_is_Me Posted March 14, 2015 Author Posted March 14, 2015 I found some information on a Madcatz distributor in Israel. Maybe you can contact them and they can hook you up.P.S.D.S. Enterprises LTD. – K.S.P Group 16 Keren Hayesod st. Tirat Carmel, 39026 Israel Tel: +972 508805588 ksp.co.il It's fine lol, as I said before, I already ordered the new HORI RAP 4 Kai for 170$... you can close this thread... thanks for the help anyways.
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