[CF] Loketest Information

[Opeb]

Has any new footage come up yet? I really wanted to see more CF Carl, but so far I've found nothing else.

[Psykotik]

New Carl changes:

- j.C 5A rejump pickup is apparently much harder

- 5C > 6B gatling confirmed

- 6B is way slower now. Mucchi noted that you want to go for 3C off fast starters for knockdown.

- 4D fatal counters now

- Damage output is higher apparently

So far, JP player impressions of Carl have been very positive.

Edited November 1, 2015 by Psykotik

[Raiza57]

On 8/30/2015, 7:29:13, Opeb said:

http://youtu.be/ASCxc0ety9A
in this video at 27:30 onward there is a carl player playing in the loketest!
it looks like you can combo 5BB > 2C midscreen and continue like in the corner! that looks really cool for solo combos to waste time and recover Ada, especially since she recovers faster now?

So im going to give a quick run down of some unlisted changes that have been scaring me. Judging from the yellow exclamation mark, @27m50s, when Carl does the UB reset, once paused, you can see a block animation and the yellow symbol. Both are indications that the JB was blocked, but the opponent was hit by 3D. That 3.3k combo was from a 3D, AN ADA STARTER. With the system nerfs that force all characters to have less hitstun combined with the fact that, if, Ada starters were still S starters then doing that long combo for 3.3k would not be possible. Maybe not all of Ada starters are N starters, but 3D currently is. Since 3D is a normal starter, the UB loop mentioned in the CP thread involving Anima is now possible.
Call me over zealous, but Jb+3D>5b>2b>5c>6B>Anima>j2c-allecan>5b>2b>5c>6B>6a>2D>IAD>ja>ja>jb>j2c>Jaa>JB+3D would definitely be possible.
And here is where things get interesting, if Carl wanted to opt for an Ada meter friendly combo. JB+3D>6c>CT>2a>5a>2a>5a>5b>2b>5c>6b>6a>2D. Also, I feel it should be noted that the 3.3k was the dmg WITHOUT active flow. This ladies and gents, is game breaking news. UB LOOP IS BACK!!!!!
+3D is a N starter
+Ja>j2c fuzzy is still possible
+UB loop possible
+CT forces standing
+6C>CT connects
~Akira-Shiro 

[NaotoKuroShiro]

There was no CF carl video thread so I thought I'd post this here so it can be added to a thread later, unless a mod wouldn't like that lol.

Carl combos:

[sinder]

Whoa, whoa, whoa wait a minute 

 

I logged in just because of that vid:

-we get a midscreen wall bounce? 

-can now launch without Ada/rapid cancel midscreen and still combo???

-stupid 6D slide is going, plus they removed SMP nonsense giving us our CT loops back???

-Brio is back to what it used to be????

 

Was planning on skipping CF but wow, now I'm interested 

 

Now the slower 6B makes sense. Carl looking to be A tier once again 

[JyakotuKurayami]

Those combos looked delicious, especially once they got to the Carl and Ada sandwich combos. CF Carl is shaping up quite nicely.

[NaotoKuroShiro]

more carl combos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCr2rygEJY

[sinder]

Ok someone make a CF video thread, i'm finding tons of footage of him. Here is a video of Mizuki and Ryuusei (lol)

Would say good to see Ryuusei back, but he is clearly tier whoring -__-. However his combos are the most optimal i've seen so there's no doubt he is going to be a threat with Carl this go round so i'm eager to follow him

 

Carl has been seen as a possible top tier again. 

Changes not mentioned yet:

-Tenerezza has fatal properties

-Anima is faster and actually usable outside of the vicace crossup

-Looks like Rhapsody of memories is faster as well

-2C jump cancelable on hit, bringing back solo midscreen combos that don't end with cantabile

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Carl looks incredibly strong, especially in the corner now. The new bear claw move looks like it will be his best oki tool, it beats dps and can catch opponents who try to jump out

 

Ada loses meter faster but also gains it back faster. OD also doesn't have her recover at a quick rate anymore, but that would be over kill if it did.

 

This is definitely my favorite version of Carl since CS extend

 

[Niko]

I really hated a lot of the arbitrary changes in BBCPEX, but the new Carl is shaping up to look super fun again. Any news if 2D is actually usable again? Actually, is there a comprehensive list of the final Carl changes in BBCF, now that the game's been out in the wild for a bit?

[Psykotik]

2D is now a completely different move, and a very good one too, I might add.

Compiled list of changes

[Mumm-Ra]

So is this also going to be the CF General? Because I want to learn Carl but I don't know where I should ask stuff...

[Mumm-Ra]

Carl combo video by Renza, finally a combo using Tenerezza in it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lT4DAuKUp0

So like is Tenerezza or whatever you write it useless now that it only does 1 hit? I was making stuff up in training mode, would this still work in CF? With Nirvana behind you

5B>6B>Tenerezza>236A (opponent is sandwiched now)>dash>5B>6B>cantable>stuff

Hopefully it's still useful because I love vacuum moves.

[Psykotik]

On 2016-01-20 at 6:10 PM, Mumm-Ra said:

So is this also going to be the CF General? Because I want to learn Carl but I don't know where I should ask stuff...

Went and made a CF general thread, changelist is also included in there.

Tenerezza is still very useful in CF for neutral (neutral poke with super armor) and it's probably still usable for combos.