Yoshirocks92 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: I Can't read that. It's not modern Japanese at least. It's has only Kanjis, and usually most Japanese these days are written with Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana. But I've trying to translate some quotes though, note that these are incomplete and hard to read due to the borders covering them up. Jin: If you want to fight back, then fight back. However... I'm serious. Noel: It's scary, but... I must find it(her?). Rachel: Go. Proced with the road you should walk. Tager: This precense... could it be. Nox Nyctores Tao: ...hm? Why such a sad face lacking lady? Relius: “Successor of the Azure”, I've been looking for you Nu: So you were “here”. Noel Vermillion Platinum: Luna... Who was Luna again? Who... am I? (uses boku, so it's likely Sena who is talking) Celica: Finally met you... Big sis. Amane: Let's see, it's so that you will know the truth. Hazama: Since we meet, I must show some hospitality. Right... Ranga-kun? Terumi: I'll stop doing these bothersome things... Everything, I'll fucking destroy everything. Naoto: Huh? Black/dark... what is that? (unsure if it's incomplete black beast or dark one) Hibiki: For my master's sake, I'll have you removed. I guess for Rachel, Taokaka, Relius, Nu, Amane and Hibiki, they are pretty much talking to Noel while Noel is trying to find Mu or Amaterasu but when the endings get subbed then we can learn what's going on.
Tokkan Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Something neat I found while going frame-by-frame. In the act 3 opening, when the pillar of shards erupt from the puddle that the embryo dropped into, the shards reflect images of Noel and Mu-12. As the camera quickly pans to the top, it's shown that the reflections are coming from the Master Unit, but close to the top the Master Unit becomes enshrouded in shadow and the reflections disappear. It is then that Izanami's light eclipses the Master Unit. Also, in the segment where the various terminology is thrown around on the screen now has the image of a girl with azure eyes waking up overlaying it. This image is taken from CS, when Mu-12 first wakes up naked within her cocoon.
Toxin45 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 The girl inside the master unit is going to reveal herself
heavymetalmixer Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Zedar90 said: I Can't read that. It's not modern Japanese at least. It's has only Kanjis, and usually most Japanese these days are written with Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana. But I've trying to translate some quotes though, note that these are incomplete and hard to read due to the borders covering them up. Jin: If you want to fight back, then fight back. However... I'm serious. Noel: It's scary, but... I must find it(her?). Rachel: Go. Proced with the road you should walk. Tager: This precense... could it be. Nox Nyctores Tao: ...hm? Why such a sad face lacking lady? Relius: “Successor of the Azure”, I've been looking for you Nu: So you were “here”. Noel Vermillion Platinum: Luna... Who was Luna again? Who... am I? (uses boku, so it's likely Sena who is talking) Celica: Finally met you... Big sis. Amane: Let's see, it's so that you will know the truth. Hazama: Since we meet, I must show some hospitality. Right... Ranga-kun? Terumi: I'll stop doing these bothersome things... Everything, I'll fucking destroy everything. Naoto: Huh? Black/dark... what is that? (unsure if it's incomplete black beast or dark one) Hibiki: For my master's sake, I'll have you removed. Now Hazama is a psycho too? And Terumi just got sick of the BB universe Edited March 25, 2016 by heavymetalmixer
Toxin45 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Yeah I notice in some scenes Amane tells the truth about the master unit Ragna is talking to something and about what to do about the truth Ada is protecting Noel from Carl Hazama and Terumi are up to something guess Hazama allows Terumi get a new body while they go their separate ways. Hibiki fights Hazama Valky goes into some deep stuff looks like he is coming down lol Izayoi tries to kill Makoto Also Nine and Kokonoe are having a "lovely" mother to daughter talk. Azrael is about to wreck everything Nu is fighting Mu wow
Luminos564 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Anyone else notice during the introduction shot for the 3 Murakumo ladies (Lamb-chops, Mu and Nu) from Acts I and II is now suddenly replaced with Mu arriving at the usual scene but this time...she's all alone. Before, you had the 3 do a quick pose like the BB-verse version of Charlie's Angels. Now the other 2 are nowhere to be seen. Also that Ranga running shot now meets Jin who has his sword drawn. Seems like a final Ragna vs. Jin showdown was inevitable after all. Too bad. I had hoped the two would settle things without spilling torrents of each other's blood since that never went swimmingly for Haku-men. But eh, that's just trailer images and not necessarily indicative of what will actually happen.
Toxin45 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 So Izayoi and tsubaki really are separate entities now. Tsubaki would never try to kill Makoto
Zedar90 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: Anyone else notice during the introduction shot for the 3 Murakumo ladies (Lamb-chops, Mu and Nu) from Acts I and II is now suddenly replaced with Mu arriving at the usual scene but this time...she's all alone. Before, you had the 3 do a quick pose like the BB-verse version of Charlie's Angels. Now the other 2 are nowhere to be seen. All three of them is still there, it's only that the three of them is dashing towards the right from the left, but only Mu stops the dash. i wonder if it's supposed to show that only Mu is hesitant about her feelings?
MLSTRM Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 The emblem for Act III is the black beast's, but it's been used for CT/CS and its in the background of the CF logo also, I think it's just there as a generic Blazblue one this time around, as opposed to meaning the black beast directly.
Zedar90 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Was it ever meant to be Black Beast's emblem? I only thought people thinks it's the black beast emblem since it's a combination of Ragna's and Nu's. As far as I believe, it's the emblem for BlazBlue, since it's been on things related to the azure (Azure Grimoire activation, Amaterasu Unit, Monolith and so on).
JustaMaskedFreak Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Was it ever meant to be Black Beast's emblem? I only thought people thinks it's the black beast emblem since it's a combination of Ragna's and Nu's. As far as I believe, it's the emblem for BlazBlue, since it's been on things related to the azure (Azure Grimoire activation, Amaterasu Unit, Monolith and so on). I guess Amaterasu's emblem is different. Isn't Amaterasu's emblem the one that shows when revealed the girl inside? Now, let's see what we get from this new material: In the brief start, where shows Ragna in the shattered piece, it is clearly the CG where it was him with a completely white background. The other CGs until announcing the name of this act are from Act 2. It is interesting when showing the clash between Jin and Noel later turns into Hakumen and Mu-12. Naoto now runs away when his character is showed up. Litchi runs too... All the Murakumos run... but Mu-12 is the only who stops. It doesn't have Hazama with that open eye, it is Terumi with sparking eye. Somewhere says "Leave no regret behind". Hazama and Hibiki/Nine with Kokonoe/Izayoi dealing with Makoto were already mentioned. Valk goes Berserk, maybe something happened to Rachel? That Amane CG didn't buy me that much, due to that 3D embryo behind, it may have something more to be revealed about that. Yeah. This gonna be awesome!
MLSTRM Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Was it ever meant to be Black Beast's emblem? I only thought people thinks it's the black beast emblem since it's a combination of Ragna's and Nu's. As far as I believe, it's the emblem for BlazBlue, since it's been on things related to the azure (Azure Grimoire activation, Amaterasu Unit, Monolith and so on). I only say it was the black beast's because that's where the BB wikia (not necessarily a reliable source, I know) has it listed http://blazblue.wikia.com/wiki/File:Black_Beast_(Crest,_Emblem).png Not really sure on it myself, but if its on Amaterasu, then it probably is something more generic than the black beast.
Zedar90 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 1 minute ago, JustaMaskedFreak said: I guess Amaterasu's emblem is different. Isn't Amaterasu's emblem the one that shows when revealed the girl inside? Amaterasu's emblem is different, but it has that emblem glowing on the coffin like thing on it.
JustaMaskedFreak Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Zedar90 said: Amaterasu's emblem is different, but it has that emblem glowing on the coffin like thing on it. So wait, what about the one inside of it? That appears above "Murakumo Unit"?
Zedar90 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, JustaMaskedFreak said: So wait, what about the one inside of it? That appears above "Murakumo Unit"? It's Amaterasu's emblem, the same one as the Logo for BBCP. I guess the best way to think of it is that the Blazblue emblem is a part of the unit, while the other emblem covers the entire unit.
Luminos564 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 55 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: All three of them is still there, it's only that the three of them is dashing towards the right from the left, but only Mu stops the dash. i wonder if it's supposed to show that only Mu is hesitant about her feelings? Ah you're right. Upon re-watching the trailer it seems like more characters are also dashing towards something, like Litchi and this time Naoto (guess it's meant to signify he'll finally make his move or become more prominent). For Mu-12 though, I am not sure. These 3 Acts have been a rollercoaster since day one. Also this is a small change, but in Acts I and II, it was Hazama that had a sinister glowing yellow eye. In Act III, it's Terumi that has it. Not sure if that signifies that the two are now completely separate (since Hazama has his own agenda) or if Terumi overtook Hazama once more for his "kill'em all" plan. By the way, now we have the words "Leave no regret behind". Originally we started with "Exceed the limit" in Act I. Then it was "You cannot exceed the limit" for Act II. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that these words were spoken by the representative bosses before? "Exceed the limit" could have been spoken by Nine as she wanted the characters to get stronger (or at least Ragna in particular) to go kick Izanami across the floor. "You cannot exceed the limit" could be Izanami pointing out the futility of each character defeating her as none of them can override Amaterasu (especially poignant in Ragna's arcade run). This last one though, I am having trouble finding a suitable speaker. Best I could do would be Rachel encouraging Ragna to sort this whole mess out (Amaterasu knows she ain't gonna do squat, the lazy leech) but I am not wholly convinced of this. The line itself kinda confuses me. For starter shouldn't it be "Leave your regrets behind" instead? As it is written, it sounds like whoever is saying the line is telling the listener to "live with/never forget their regrets". Unless of course the line isn't meant to be encouraging in the first place
Toxin45 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: Ah you're right. Upon re-watching the trailer it seems like more characters are also dashing towards something, like Litchi and this time Naoto (guess it's meant to signify he'll finally make his move or become more prominent). For Mu-12 though, I am not sure. These 3 Acts have been a rollercoaster since day one. Also this is a small change, but in Acts I and II, it was Hazama that had a sinister glowing yellow eye. In Act III, it's Terumi that has it. Not sure if that signifies that the two are now separate (since Hazama has his own agenda) or if Terumi overtook Hazama once more for his "kill'em all" plan. By the way, now we have the words "Leave no regret behind". Originally we started with "Exceed the limit" in Act I. Then it was "You cannot exceed the limit" for Act II. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that these words were spoken by the representative bosses before? "Exceed the limit" could have been spoken by Nine as she wanted the characters to get stronger (or at least Ragna in particular) to go kick Izanami across the floor. "You cannot exceed the limit" could be Izanami pointing out the futility of each character defeating her as none of them can override Amaterasu (especially poignant in Ragna's arcade run). This last one though, I am having trouble finding a suitable speaker. Best I could do would be Rachel encouraging Ragna to sort this whole mess out (Amaterasu knows she ain't gonna do squat, the lazy leech) but I am not wholly convinced of this. The line itself kinda confuses me. For starter shouldn't it be "Leave your regrets behind" instead? As it is written, it sounds like whoever is saying the line is telling the listener to "live with/never forget their regrets". Unless of course the line isn't meant to be encouraging in the first place Didn't you watch the scenes of Act III It seems Hazama and Terumi are no longer working with each other so yeah their separate entities now. To be fair on Rachel is that she is losing her powers and currently fighting against Naoto.
Kenji Harima Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, MLSTRM said: The emblem for Act III is the black beast's, but it's been used for CT/CS and its in the background of the CF logo also CT and CF yes but CS not 20 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Was it ever meant to be Black Beast's emblem? I only thought people thinks it's the black beast emblem since it's a combination of Ragna's and Nu's. You have a point there and yes: it is combination of their emblems but this is also one of the possibilities to create Black Beast so because of that I was shocked a little. I was thinking about Terumi but since he and Hazama are separated he can't become one. He probably even doesn't want it cause he thinks about it as a "fail" and now under with Act II's ending he desires to possess "Successor of the Azure". I am wondering about Black Beast as the Final Boss but not in the end of Act III. Definitely too fast. Of coruse my thoughts are only speculations but it is still a little hint cause in previous acts we also got emblems: Nine's emblem in Act I and Izanami's emblem in Act II 24 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: It's Amaterasu's emblem, the same one as the Logo for BBCP. I will put one how it looks in the CP
JustaMaskedFreak Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I really didn't expect to Amaterasu's emblem be similar to CP emblem, I am really surprised now! Oh well, anyway. I wonder why some characters were running in this opening (Naoto, Litchi, Murakumos...)
oh no, he said Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 56 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: Ah you're right. Upon re-watching the trailer it seems like more characters are also dashing towards something, like Litchi and this time Naoto (guess it's meant to signify he'll finally make his move or become more prominent). For Mu-12 though, I am not sure. These 3 Acts have been a rollercoaster since day one. Also this is a small change, but in Acts I and II, it was Hazama that had a sinister glowing yellow eye. In Act III, it's Terumi that has it. Not sure if that signifies that the two are now completely separate (since Hazama has his own agenda) or if Terumi overtook Hazama once more for his "kill'em all" plan. By the way, now we have the words "Leave no regret behind". Originally we started with "Exceed the limit" in Act I. Then it was "You cannot exceed the limit" for Act II. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that these words were spoken by the representative bosses before? "Exceed the limit" could have been spoken by Nine as she wanted the characters to get stronger (or at least Ragna in particular) to go kick Izanami across the floor. "You cannot exceed the limit" could be Izanami pointing out the futility of each character defeating her as none of them can override Amaterasu (especially poignant in Ragna's arcade run). This last one though, I am having trouble finding a suitable speaker. Best I could do would be Rachel encouraging Ragna to sort this whole mess out (Amaterasu knows she ain't gonna do squat, the lazy leech) but I am not wholly convinced of this. The line itself kinda confuses me. For starter shouldn't it be "Leave your regrets behind" instead? As it is written, it sounds like whoever is saying the line is telling the listener to "live with/never forget their regrets". Unless of course the line isn't meant to be encouraging in the first place I'm getting the impression that Ragna is saying it to himself. Kind of like he's Steeling himself for what he has to do, since storywise from what we know, he's likely marching off to his death. Ragna has a lot of regrets, and therefore a lot of things he feels like he needs to fix (because if nothing else, he is a self sacrificing motherfucker) from the myriad of saya clones, to saya herself, to Jin. It feels like he's trying to get his house in order. Quietly throws another death flag on the mountain-sized pile labeled Ragna
Ogiga99 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 39 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: By the way, now we have the words "Leave no regret behind". Originally we started with "Exceed the limit" in Act I. Then it was "You cannot exceed the limit" for Act II. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that these words were spoken by the representative bosses before? "Exceed the limit" could have been spoken by Nine as she wanted the characters to get stronger (or at least Ragna in particular) to go kick Izanami across the floor. "You cannot exceed the limit" could be Izanami pointing out the futility of each character defeating her as none of them can override Amaterasu (especially poignant in Ragna's arcade run). This last one though, I am having trouble finding a suitable speaker. Best I could do would be Rachel encouraging Ragna to sort this whole mess out (Amaterasu knows she ain't gonna do squat, the lazy leech) but I am not wholly convinced of this. The line itself kinda confuses me. For starter shouldn't it be "Leave your regrets behind" instead? As it is written, it sounds like whoever is saying the line is telling the listener to "live with/never forget their regrets". Unless of course the line isn't meant to be encouraging in the first place To be fair, the openings have a fair amount of Engrish in them so it's possible "Leave no regret behind" isn't exactly what it was meant to mean. However, that line could still have a positive meaning. "Life with/never forget your regrets" could mean something like "don't try to run away from your mistakes and your past, they are part of you and you should bear them while heading toward the future." This line is particularly poignant if it's directed at Noel, who has spent the first two Acts rejecting herself and denying change. As for the speaker, if it is supposed to be a character speaking as a opposed to an outside narrator or a tagline, I would also put my money on Rachel. The Act III trailer was entirely a conversation between her and Izanami and she is essentially the "leader" of the heroes (in the sense that she is the most knowledgable about the overarching plot and the world itself) so she certainly is relevant enough to deliver that line. The line also could fit with the promise she made with Ragna in her CT story (that he would continue to fight without regrets no matter what happens or how broken he becomes) and her final line from the Act III trailer about him not giving up reiterating this. Also, total tangent but she's hardly a "lazy leech" since she has been literally killing herself by taking action since CP's True Ending (and her Tsukuyomi Unit is the only thing that stopped Izanami from destroying Amaterasu), it's just that she can't accomplish everything by herself and is entrusting her wishes to Ragna like she always has. 30 minutes ago, Kenji Harima said: I was thinking about Terumi but since he and Hazama are separated he can't become one. He probably even doesn't want it cause he thinks about it as a "fail" and now under with Act II's ending he desires to possess "Successor of the Azure". I am wondering about Black Beast as the Final Boss but not in the end of Act III. Definitely too fast. Of coruse my thoughts are only speculations but it is still a little hint cause in previous acts we also got emblems: Nine's emblem in Act I and Izanami's emblem in Act II Terumi only says he wants to "use" the Successor of the Azure, what he intends to use Noel for I have no idea, not necessarily possess her. Not sure how he could even do that since he can only fuse with someone who is incredibly similar to him and Noel is about as un-Terumi as you can get. Plus it would stand to reason that whatever is preventing him from fusing with Hazama would stop him from doing it with anyone else. The reason he wanted the Susanoo Unit is because it works differently, being a suit of armor inhabited by a soul so he could use it if he finds a way to evict Hakumen. I'm almost certain they won't put a giant Take-Mikazuchi-esque boss in Arcade Mode. If the Black Beast does reappear (CP's True Ending hints that it will since Izanami says she will use it to create her world of death) and is possibly the Final Boss, that would be only in Story Mode. Arcade stories have way too little time for them to explain where a new Black Beast came from and give it's appearance buildup.
Luminos564 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Ogiga99 said: To be fair, the openings have a fair amount of Engrish in them so it's possible "Leave no regret behind" isn't exactly what it was meant to mean. However, that line could still have a positive meaning. "Life with/never forget your regrets" could mean something like "don't try to run away from your mistakes and your past, they are part of you and you should bear them while heading toward the future." This line is particularly poignant if it's directed at Noel, who has spent the first two Acts rejecting herself and denying change. As for the speaker, if it is supposed to be a character speaking as a opposed to an outside narrator or a tagline, I would also put my money on Rachel. The Act III trailer was entirely a conversation between her and Izanami and she is essentially the "leader" of the heroes (in the sense that she is the most knowledgable about the overarching plot and the world itself) so she certainly is relevant enough to deliver that line. The line also could fit with the promise she made with Ragna in her CT story (that he would continue to fight without regrets no matter what happens or how broken he becomes) and her final line from the Act III trailer about him not giving up reiterating this. Oh, I hadn't thought about the line being directed at Noel. I keep forgetting that for all the central focus that Ragna gets, she is just as much the main character as he and Jin are (the latter is to a bit smaller degree). I only figured it'd be Rachel as the speaker since...well, she's usually the gal that gets top pick as the "narrator" of sorts to this series. And I kinda figured the line was more in tune to what she told Ragna in CT all those years ago back when this series was just getting on its feet. 2 hours ago, Ogiga99 said: Also, total tangent but she's hardly a "lazy leech" since she has been literally killing herself by taking action since CP's True Ending (and her Tsukuyomi Unit is the only thing that stopped Izanami from destroying Amaterasu), it's just that she can't accomplish everything by herself and is entrusting her wishes to Ragna like she always has. Ah, don't take my comment as anything more than a playful jab/joke at her expense. If I wanted to criticise Rachel I have far harsher words in mind. I just like referring to her as a "leech" since Ragna refers to her as "bunny-leech" in English and I like the sound of it. Curiously, for all that talk she's never shown drinking blood beyond the one-time mention of when she drank Ragna's in that way off distant loop. Heck, not even the joke endings exploit this. I know full well what her circumstances are this go around. There's also that little matter where she asked Tsubaki to kill her if Ragna dies a natural death as well. So bottom line: no I am not dissing Rachel seriously. It's mostly a joke on my part. Alrighty ?
Yoshirocks92 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 10 hours ago, Tokkan said: Something neat I found while going frame-by-frame. In the act 3 opening, when the pillar of shards erupt from the puddle that the embryo dropped into, the shards reflect images of Noel and Mu-12. As the camera quickly pans to the top, it's shown that the reflections are coming from the Master Unit, but close to the top the Master Unit becomes enshrouded in shadow and the reflections disappear. It is then that Izanami's light eclipses the Master Unit. Also, in the segment where the various terminology is thrown around on the screen now has the image of a girl with azure eyes waking up overlaying it. This image is taken from CS, when Mu-12 first wakes up naked within her cocoon. Yeah and I just rewatched the opening again and I sorta noticed that as well as the image from Continuum Shift when Mu-12 first woke up.
MaximusMurkimus Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 *sigh* I feel like Jin hasn't learned anything throughout the entire series at this point, especially if him and Ragna are fighting once again. Sure, it could be over Noel, but even if everyone in the Embryo suddenly regains their memories, it feels like the character development from CS/CP was for nothing, based on the way some of them are still acting.
Toxin45 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, MaximusMurkimus said: *sigh* I feel like Jin hasn't learned anything throughout the entire series at this point, especially if him and Ragna are fighting once again. Sure, it could be over Noel, but even if everyone in the Embryo suddenly regains their memories, it feels like the character development from CS/CP was for nothing, based on the way some of them are still acting. Well it's just the opening sometimes openings are quite deceiving and also Izayoi and Azrael are trying to kill Ragna. But yeah Izayoi and Tsubaki are separate entities o the real Tsubaki would never try to attack Makoto, also Ada is protecting Noel from Carl and Hazama just cut off ties from Terumi as well as Fighting with Hibiki,Mu is fighting Nu,Nine and Kokonoe are fighting,ragna is doing his own thing,Azrael is going trigger happy,Amane is explaining stuff,and Valky is going through some shocking revelations.
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