Antihippy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 You can do that CT I believe, just not much point really. Though in CS any you can get really counts.
koremoke Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Has anyone seen this video? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9407556 around 21:37 Lambda offensive bursts, and ends up killing jin through that combo. I thought the system changes prevented this, no?
9TNine Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Has anyone seen this video? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9407556 around 21:37 Lambda offensive bursts, and ends up killing jin through that combo. I thought the system changes prevented this, no? You can kill off offensive burst now. -9
kenja0 Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Aha! I watched further into the video and in the Lambda vs Lambda's final round, you can clearly see 6C hit higher than it's hitbox was in CT.
Tsuuna Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I've come to pay my respects. And say good freakin' riddance. Lolmidtier.
kriaser Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I've come to pay my respects. And say good freakin' riddance. Lolmidtier. Mid tier? More like win tier, amirite?
Tsuuna Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 S-Tier? Oh wait, that's Bang. Whoops. ;D More like, Bang tier. *shot*
Antihippy Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Man, I kinda want to hate bang, but bang's cool so all's good I guess?
kenja0 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Meh, at least we're not getting crap anymore because we're "broken" in CT question mark. But then again, rubbing a debuff in our face is kinda pointless since we simply like our character. Everyone who used Nu because of obvious win went to Bang now... Tsuuna, who did you play in CT?
Halcyone3 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Meh, at least we're not getting crap anymore because we're "broken" in CT question mark. But then again, rubbing a debuff in our face is kinda pointless since we simply like our character. Everyone who used Nu because of obvious win went to Bang now... Tsuuna, who did you play in CT? judging from his posts in the match-up sections here, he played bang now: her 5DD->4DD dosent combo anymore, but can it be used as a small mix-up on block? B parser (the low hitting 1 i think) and 4DD to mix-up if the enemy is too far to do 2147D or something? or is it slow enough that its blocked easily on reaction.
zaeris Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I've come to pay my respects. And say good freakin' riddance. Lolmidtier. I will play with ya for a bit Get the F**ked out of the nu/lamdba forum you scrub. See, mutual feelings if you enjoy trolling I suggest you go else where. I don't see any self respecting nu players come into the bang forum and says he's lame... If you dont understand you're an ass sitting behind a comp jacking off I suggest you take a reality check..
kriaser Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 judging from his posts in the match-up sections here, he played bang now: her 5DD->4DD dosent combo anymore, but can it be used as a small mix-up on block? B parser (the low hitting 1 i think) and 4DD to mix-up if the enemy is too far to do 2147D or something? or is it slow enough that its blocked easily on reaction. D swords cause almost no block or hit stun anymore. If you 5DD > 4DD, they could easily forward dash and put you in a world of hurt. However, not everyone has godly reactions, so yes, 5DD > 4DD is still a mix up option, but not anywhere near as strong as it was in CT. Since the 2nd hit on 5DD no longer causes hit stun, 4DD will not combo, but they have the same start time as CT (I think...). There are better options than using 4DD though. With Lambda, you have to mix it up. You may have to 5DD > saw blade or 5D(one sword) > 214D (or D~C depending distance). If you develop a pattern and your opponent picks up on it, you could face serious damage. Of course, the things I listed above do not combo. You would use them as pokes or when the opponent blocks your 5Ds. All dependent on how far they are. Hell, I've seen a lot of Lambda's use 5DD > 236C because the opponent thought they would 214D or 236D. Mix ups and keeping the opponent guessing. Same concept applies for every character. This is at least how I would be playing Lambda, since I use a similar style with Nu already.
Halcyone3 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 D swords cause almost no block or hit stun anymore. If you 5DD > 4DD, they could easily forward dash and put you in a world of hurt. i did not know about the reduced blockstun, though now that i think about it, it was sort of a no brainer >.< thnx for the info I will play with ya for a bit Get the F**ked out of the nu/lamdba forum you scrub. See, mutual feelings if you enjoy trolling I suggest you go else where. I don't see any self respecting nu players come into the bang forum and says he's lame... If you dont understand you're an ass sitting behind a comp jacking off I suggest you take a reality check.. he's just trying to get nu mains to complain about bang being op and make them seem like idiots.
Tsuuna Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 i did not know about the reduced blockstun, though now that i think about it, it was sort of a no brainer >.< thnx for the info he's just trying to get nu mains to complain about bang being op and make them seem like idiots. Some people just don't know what trolling is, let alone respect an obvious troll and ignore it. Tsuuna wins. Have fun with Lambda. She does seem like a much more interesting fight, having been changed so drastically. I await the eventual Lambda pro'z to come out of their hiding places, when CS hits console.
kriaser Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Some people just don't know what trolling is, let alone respect an obvious troll and ignore it. Tsuuna wins. Have fun with Lambda. She does seem like a much more interesting fight, having been changed so drastically. I await the eventual Lambda pro'z to come out of their hiding places, when CS hits console. I will say that the only thing I am disappointed in is that Lambda doesn't have a new Distortion Drive. I hope you enjoy setting people on fire with a clone of yourself, Tsuuna.
Tsuuna Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I so do. I'm going to be all. ANTI-AIR. AAASSHUURRAAA MUSOUKENNN. At least Lambda will be the underdog now. I gurantee everyone will call the good Bang players Tier whores.
kriaser Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I so do. I'm going to be all. ANTI-AIR. AAASSHUURRAAA MUSOUKENNN. At least Lambda will be the underdog now. I gurantee everyone will call the good Bang players Tier whores. Probably. But at the same time, they have a giant nail in the face and you're standing over them in your underwear with fireworks going off in the background, all in remembrance of your great deeds of justice. So, I think it's okay to be called a tier whore in that sense. $20 says people will still avoid my Lambda tag because they can't figure why they keep impaling themselves on my D swords.
Tsuuna Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 CS just makes me so giddy. I'm so ready. Ninja's in speedos and fireworks and six foot long nails and broken robots and switchblade wielding Moonwalkers with sock puppet snakes and crazy vengeful girls with books and eyeball hats, aaaagh. It's too much to wait for.
A.X.I.S. Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 tsuuna quit verbally masturbating, i'm still sad that lambda can zone tager like a bitch.
Tsuuna Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I don't see how. With his increased walk speed, magnetism pull, sledge and whatever else, can someone explain this matchup better?
Antihippy Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 Because he's still slow as fuck, big as fuck and sledge is still as punshiable as fuck. Walk speed is nothing to write home about when he can't even dash. At range lambda still have him at her mercy. Just need to watch out for magna ball thing. D swords cause almost no block or hit stun anymore. If you 5DD > 4DD, they could easily forward dash and put you in a world of hurt. However, not everyone has godly reactions, so yes, 5DD > 4DD is still a mix up option, but not anywhere near as strong as it was in CT. Since the 2nd hit on 5DD no longer causes hit stun, 4DD will not combo, but they have the same start time as CT (I think...). Actually from experience the first D sword of 5DD has more hitstun and blockstun. Because 5DD is actually pretty slow in between now, but it still combos. Not sure about the next D. I might be talking out of my ass here though. Anyone care to confirm? Even in CT people could backdash 5DD anyway to avoid 4DD, so it's not a big deal. I use 4DD as a mix-up option between it and 236B anyway. Get them scared of 236B/236A first and you should be able to hit them.
ryu-bi Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 $20 says people will still avoid my Lambda tag because they can't figure why they keep impaling themselves on my D swords. I think 236C is another annoying move in CS in addition to the D swords. 236A mixup is hardly usable once people notice she says something different than the B version.
germanturkey Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 oh, it seems that the Arakune in CS has a 100% curse combo into a 9k combo. cool.
kriaser Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 Actually from experience the first D sword of 5DD has more hitstun and blockstun. Because 5DD is actually pretty slow in between now, but it still combos. Not sure about the next D. I might be talking out of my ass here though. Anyone care to confirm? Even in CT people could backdash 5DD anyway to avoid 4DD, so it's not a big deal. I use 4DD as a mix-up option between it and 236B anyway. Get them scared of 236B/236A first and you should be able to hit them. I think you missed what I said. 5DD, the 2nd sword, does not cause the crumble state (hit stun) that it does in CT. Which is what made it connect with 4DD. In CT and CS, the blockstun of 5DD is null, thus allowing the opponent to backdash when the 4Ds are coming.
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