How To Get Better/Not Rage

[HolyAarom]

So I tried to play some #R online and I got destroyed. MY PRIDE I'm generally not an angry person, but getting destroyed when I have no way to inch out tends to make my blood pressure rise a little. I'm getting killed by the same tactics, and even though I try to read some of them, I still end up losing. How do you guys get better and keep yourselves from raging? I realize that this is the hard truth that everyone finds out when they stop playing against the CPU and go to fight real players, but goddamn, this jump is big. I'm guessing that reading about all the techniques and stuff helps, but it won't do anything if you've never tested out these things against a real person. I put this thread here because this is probably more of a general question instead of a gameplay one.

[4r5]

Don't take it to seriously. Playing #reload online isn't about competition or improvement. #r online is just a (sometimes) fun time waster. If it's not fun, just stop playing for a while. Or deny challenges from whoever, or whatever.

If you're using #r online to learn GG, well, good luck with that. I would suggest you give up on that. It's a different beast online. Unless you can find a group of players with less then 50ms ping. But then it's like, why play online?

As for general RAGE coping strategies. I'm not a very angry kinda guy, but what my friends do is they just put down the controller, step away from the game, then come back when their heads cool down. Seems to work out better, considering before they used to just keep playing, and getting more RAGE and think less, intill meltdown. But now it's like, small rage, step away for a few minutes, and come back ready to think and solve problems.

[HolyAarom]

Don't take it to seriously. Playing #reload online isn't about competition or improvement. #r online is just a (sometimes) fun time waster. If it's not fun, just stop playing for a while. Or deny challenges from whoever, or whatever.

I guess I shouldn't take it too seriously, but sometimes I just feel like I'm a cat in a box and I can't get out when I'm slapped at the face at how horrible I really am compared to some strangers. Well hey, that's a sign to improve, right?

If you're using #r online to learn GG, well, good luck with that. I would suggest you give up on that. Unless you can find a group of players with less then 50ms ping. But then it's like, why play online?

I have AC/+, but my only options are:

-Gold CPUs

-My friends who think that guarding is the taunt button

I'm guessing some matchup experience would help if I were actually able to go to a real match or something, but I'm thinking that #R and AC are just too different that having some experience in one won't help in the other.

[4r5]

Wasn't even talking about the differences between #r and AC. I was talking about the differences between #r online and #r offline. They're different games. Like, Ky got me in a blockstring, and all my inputs are delayed by a minimum of 4 frames? "Fuck." Can't react, so I gotta guess. Whelp, guessed wrong, got combo'ed and knockdown and charged stunedge, and here we go again. It's kind of lame, yeah. Do I expect people do not use "lag-tactics"? No. And I wouldn't want people to not use them. There's lag, no way around it. That's the game. People are going to do things differently online than offline, and that's why I don't take it seriously. You probably shouldn't either. They're different games and people do different things. #r online is just for goofing around. As a learning tool, towards offline play? I dunno, I guess you can try. But I wouldn't. Back when I couldn't find anyone to play GG with, training mode's record/playback was my best friend.

[vedasisme]

I'm unique in how I deal with my "rage" in that instead of getting mad like some people, I vent my frustration by demanding many re-matches, even if I lose all but one of those games. Sometimes it works against me though, because I don't allow myself a lot of time to think about what I could be doing differently...

[Troll Badguy]

I have AC/+, but my only options are:

-Gold CPUs

-My friends who think that guarding is the taunt button

I'm guessing some matchup experience would help if I were actually able to go to a real match or something, but I'm thinking that #R and AC are just too different that having some experience in one won't help in the other.

If you have AC+ on the psp, and a PS3 with AdHoc Party, then I can play you in that.

As for RAGE, I got over things like that, I mean maybe I just came to accept the fact that there will always be people better than me, because I honestly think I suck most of the time, and I view the play experience as a way to get better. Like above posters said, #R online is mostly for fun

[Mahouko]

only time I would rage is if the person you are fighting is a douche bag. Other then that if they are really good players and really cool people, I just want to keep playing them even if I lose. But yea since you arent at a tourney laugh off the lose, just adds to your exp right?

[Killerwatt]

I've been playing fighting games for almost twenty years and I think as a result of that (combined with the fact that I am a generally level-headed individual) I'm very stoic when it comes to games. I was taught from day one in competitive fighting to never take anything personally because 1. Shit happens and 2. It is only a game. Once you realize this, you will begin to see how immature and stupid it is to lose your cool over it. In my arcade days I'd encounter "ragers" who would do everything but physically assault me and the only rise they'd get out of me would be nothing. When you're mad you're not focused, ergo it's easier for me to beat you (which is what typically happened, epsecially in my Super Turbo days). No one is perfect; there are times when you will be outplayed and you are going to lose. Simple as that. So my advice to you would be to never expect yourself to do better than you are capable of. Stay humble, stay calm and focused, and just deal with the fight. Don't get mad over something that when put into perspective is very trivial. Your energy is better used figuring out how to deal with your opponent.

[EternalLurker]

Why are you getting angry about losing? Is it cuz you wanna win? If so, since you don't sound like the kind of person who plays better when angry (few people are), raging is certainly not going to help you win. Therefore, don't rage. It's pretty simple. Instead, politely ask your opponent for a rematch, during which you should mentally detach yourself and analyze what (s)he's doing. Play him/her again as many times as necessary until you've figured out what the issue is. It might not be quickly fixable (improving your reflexes takes a lot of practice against very good opponents, and learning specific aspects of a particular matchup can take weeks), but set it as your next GG-related goal, whatever it is.

[HolyAarom]

Well, it's not losing that's getting me angry, but I guess it's how I'm losing. I was facing this Slayer in #R and he literally Pilebunker'd me into a Dizzy status and killed me. I kept rematching this person, but it seems like whatever I'm doing differently isn't working.

I think this sounds pathetic, but I think it's that I couldn't at least get a hit in or something, slapping me on the face with the message that I suck (lol self conscious.) I find it kinda distressing that I'm just sitting there and I have no way to fight back against the other player. Then again, I guess you guys might be right and I'm just taking this too seriously.

I was able to beat this Eddie after losing like ten times, but this one player, my god. It was if he was a Yomi Reader as a second job.

I really can't explain why I'm getting angry, but I'm not the "punch a wall" angry person, but I'm the person who just grits his teeth and say "gg" in a semi-angry voice.

So my advice to you would be to never expect yourself to do better than you are capable of.

Yes, this. Basically, I went to #R online with the ability to at least do Maniac in AC, but I got destroyed by certain people. I do beat a few people sometimes, but getting beat the way I did makes me question if I really am a decent player, or if everyone else I beat is just dumb.

I'm not sure if I can find a better analogy for my problem, but it's like working very hard for something, and then when you do do whatever, you fail and your hard work looks pointless. (I know that was a pretty crap analogy.)

Again, I think I'm just rambling like a whiny person, but I think it helps if I at least try to vent/explain what my problem is and seek advice from those who have been in my shoes before. Other than that, I'm pretty sure it's best to relax and move on for now.

[Mahouko]

I was facing this Slayer in #R and he literally Pilebunker'd me into a Dizzy status

I know how you feel on that......... bridget gets raped hard and she also doesn't like Mays 6P:vbang:

Anyways you should take your time. If vs players gets to bad, hit the training mode and cool of for a little while. Oh yea and dont you guys ever have times when you keep playing the game you just keep getting worst, and then when you come back a little later you play much better?

[jamesb]

Just grind it out dude trust me. I don't play much guilty at the moment but I've been playing 3s for like 4 months now and I'm pretty happy with what I got thus far from extreme dedication. I can do almost everything I thought i couldn't learn and i can nearly hold my own at sunnyvale golfland EDIT: And by that i mean training mode. I put serious work into training mode before i take it to the streets(don't really play online) practicing the stuff that gives me trouble like kara double shoryus or tackle tackle headbutts for ken and urien respectively. I'm just a real spaz for any edge i can get no matter how hair pulling the execution may be. I plan on doing this with gg or bb later on

[frcflyingjohnny]

I stopped reading like after the first two posts, but I have something to say in response to like the first post. This might have been said before or not I don't know, but there's something you have to realize about online play. LAG, and it doesn't even require much to make moves much stronger. But the truth is LAG = gimmick. Sometimes when we play gg, a person happens to be good at using attacks like a dust. When this type of attack is taken online... it gains power. With the lag, comes power from this move because the opponent trying to defend cannot respond in time to block it. (even though most matches don't end up using this mix up style because everyone ends up mashing anyways...) but when someone is using dusts or something like these offensive attacks, you have a MUCH harder time defending against them online than you do off. I believe that there is a certain online play-style that is learned/gained in response to the ineffectiveness of blocking. And you know what that is?? Mashing. It's mainly pure attack mode all the time, it's like a mashfest back and forth, and you gotta realize that this is not the play-style that would win in an offline battle (well it could win, that's why it's called it a play-style). But what I'm saying is that a certain playstyle is ignored/weakened when brought to online battles. The "twitch" aspect is missing from online gaming that has a significant amount of lag. If you take anything from this rant, it's to abuse 5D online. May the force be with you.

[Zerite]

^ this. Seriously, playing #r online is like playing a poorly designed game. It's very easy to have enough latency to make attacks that you should be able to punish unpunishable, and to make bad blockstrings into S++ blockstrings. For example: when Zappa has the ghosts, you can do a crossup that is typically difficult to block by jumping over your opponent and doing j.H. This becomes a mixup if you jump over them and then airdash backwards or jump over them and then double jump backwards. Also, in #r you can land and mash 2s, as 2s combos into itself like 7 times in #r. You can also throw in other attacks while airborne for a high/low crossup mixup deal. If your opponent gets hit by j.H it causes knockdown. This lets you continue the crossup safely. Online many people have told me that this crossup is impossible to block. It normally is confusing and difficult to block, due to its ambiguity, but that ambiguity combined with lag leads to 10-15 seconds of eating the same move over and over and over and then dying.

[Oiboi]

I'm unique in how I deal with my "rage" in that instead of getting mad like some people, I vent my frustration by demanding many re-matches, even if I lose all but one of those games.

Sometimes it works against me though, because I don't allow myself a lot of time to think about what I could be doing differently...

This is kind of how I do it. I've been playing GG for about 4-5 years solid now, and even from the get-go, I was dead set on losing. I knew I was going to lose-- Sure, I wanted to win, but it was blatantly clear that my knowledge, skills, and experience of the game were much too small to secure consistent victory.

So I just played as often as I could and as seriously as I could. Some of my greatest matches have been casuals. Most of the time Tournaments tend to dissapoint in terms of enjoyment and what can be learned from them for me, but every now and then you'll get that one match where you get stomped, and eventually, maybe right there on the spot or weeks later, it'll dawn on you why you lost. Obviously just 'knowing' what to do won't help, though, so you gotta practice. In my younger days, I practiced more desperate frame inputs and reversal tools than combos, because if I can't get out of the situations I know I can get out of, I'm never going to get the combo I practiced for 20 hours learning anyways.

And of course, experience. You'll learn how attacks work, how characters combo and blockstring, what moves can do what, etc. You'll learn basics like if it's a low or an overhead, whether your opponent can jump cancel it-- or more complex things, such as after you block Slayer's 6K you can reversal to hit him out of 2D mixup (yes that's old slash shit, don't mind it). Experience will teach you how to predict how the game will position and place effects on you or your opponent, and having that experience means you can react faster than if you hadn't.

I've met a lot of Rager's in my day, and probably their biggest issue was their lack of knowledge. When this happens, and you feel like there just has to be a way out, don't be afraid to ask your opponent after the match! You won't learn a lot of things without asking. So many people don't know Zappa's standing Dust is grab invulnerable. You won't learn it by asking because it only happens on wakeups, usually-- So just ask! The only other thing you can do is to practice the trick you learn once you learn it, and gain the experience to know when to use it properly.

[Hotashi]

#R online is only a distraction... no need to be serious.

[General_Tobias]

Everything in life is a distraction except that which keeps you alive. Then again there is not much I take seriously Anyways I got better by getting a PSP and playing everyday on the Bus and Lunch Breaks. Though I haven't netplayed much so I may acctually suck balls.

[Alzarath]

try talking to people. ask what you did right/wrong, what to work on, etc.

[FlamesMacloud]

Well as a active online player... yes there's lag Yes there players that abuse the lag Yes it encourages mashing and a rushdown style BUT use it to improve your general movement and metagame. Add someone and talk to them after a match like Alzarath said. I wouldn't say it was a complete waste of time as You can still get a good idea of your chars movement and strats from it

[NamelessCounter]

I guess I shouldn't take it too seriously, but sometimes I just feel like I'm a cat in a box and I can't get out when I'm slapped at the face at how horrible I really am compared to some strangers. Well hey, that's a sign to improve, right?

I have AC/+, but my only options are:

-Gold CPUs

-My friends who think that guarding is the taunt button

I'm guessing some matchup experience would help if I were actually able to go to a real match or something, but I'm thinking that #R and AC are just too different that having some experience in one won't help in the other.

1) Find your local arcade if it exists...

2) Practice your combos

3) Don't play the same character in GGAC as in #R. The games are 2 different and so are the combos.

4) Take the loss as a challenge. Your fighting against another human being, its wit vs wit skill vs skill.

[HeatEXTEND]

Wasn't even talking about the differences between #r and AC. I was talking about the differences between #r online and #r offline. They're different games. Like, Ky got me in a blockstring, and all my inputs are delayed by a minimum of 4 frames? "Fuck." Can't react, so I gotta guess. Whelp, guessed wrong, got combo'ed and knockdown and charged stunedge, and here we go again. It's kind of lame, yeah. Do I expect people do not use "lag-tactics"? No. And I wouldn't want people to not use them. There's lag, no way around it. That's the game.

People are going to do things differently online than offline, and that's why I don't take it seriously. You probably shouldn't either. They're different games and people do different things. #r online is just for goofing around. As a learning tool, towards offline play? I dunno, I guess you can try. But I wouldn't. Back when I couldn't find anyone to play GG with, training mode's record/playback was my best friend.

You sound like an angry kid lol, getting beasted much ?

Edit: at OP, be happy when someone uses cheesy shit on you. They are wasting their time not learning so that you can. Keep this in mind, it pretty much kills all my rage

[iora]

i see a topic "how to get better/not rage" and i see most recent reply by "FUCKSCRUBS" and irony ensues. lolz didnt read a word in this thread... i just had to post the ironnnny

[Digital Watches]

You sound like an angry kid lol, getting beasted much ?

Edit: at OP, be happy when someone uses cheesy shit on you. They are wasting their time not learning so that you can. Keep this in mind, it pretty much kills all my rage

You're new here, huh?

[Clouth]

Only rage I would personally allow is execution rage. When you drop a combo or miss time something. Because that shit is just too annoying.

Spend how many hours in training mode? doing what? And these are the results? /:

I want my money back. ;p

[HeatEXTEND]

i see a topic

"how to get better/not rage"

and i see most recent reply by

"FUCKSCRUBS"

and irony ensues. lolz

didnt read a word in this thread... i just had to post the ironnnny

Would you care to explain the ironnnny ? Being a scrub has nothing to do with being new, bad or getting frustrated.

Also ye i'm new here but nothing's wrong with R-online except sol's 5K obv :D.