ShoMeYaMoves Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 Fixed that, thanks showme Got anything else you know about it, Show? Don't try to tech trap Hakumen unless he doesn't have enough for hotaru. I think you have most of the important stuff, this matchup is basically all about baiting his drive and setting up ground command throw. If he's afraid to drive because of you throwing a bunch of command throws into blockstrings then he plays right into your hands. If he feels drive isn't doing him any good, he'll jump back+BB which is a free meaty air grab or j.623C. And airgrab or j.623C with 50 heat is scary shit now .
Lord Cruxis Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 Don't try to tech trap Hakumen unless he doesn't have enough for hotaru. I think you have most of the important stuff, this matchup is basically all about baiting his drive and setting up ground command throw. If he's afraid to drive because of you throwing a bunch of command throws into blockstrings then he plays right into your hands. If he feels drive isn't doing him any good, he'll jump back+BB which is a free meaty air grab or j.623C. And airgrab or j.623C with 50 heat is scary shit now . Oh man it sure is >.<. P.S. Score attack hakumen standing 720 D my 5a. :/
qwerty Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 about hakumen's 5D; you can combo after it (2B guren 6C) and i'm pretty sure he can still do the B+C+D throw break option select he had in ct.
ryokoalways Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Hakumen needs RC to combo after 5D now (besides rachel). And option select is completely removed iirc. That was unintended anyways.
mAc Chaos Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 I thought the window for it was just made smaller, but it wasn't removed?
Dacidbro Posted February 26, 2010 Author Posted February 26, 2010 I've heard both it was completely removed (which is what I believe I've seen) and that you can do it, but it's a 5 frame window (which I've never seen)
ryokoalways Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 you can option select block/throw still, but you can't option select catch/throw.
Dacidbro Posted February 26, 2010 Author Posted February 26, 2010 Well that's the useless aspect of it anyway The only reason it was amazing in CT was you could throw break during attacks. :/
qwerty Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Hakumen needs RC to combo after 5D now (besides rachel). And option select is completely removed iirc. That was unintended anyways. 2B guren 6C is invalid?
ryokoalways Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 5D provides a 6F window for you to combo afterwards. 2B,renka, etc are all too slow. The reason it's rachel (and possibly tager) specific is because hakumen can 2A>etc against larger otg hitbox. Otherwise, like backward throw, Hakumen now needs to RC to combo.
mAc Chaos Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Damn. Is there any reason to use 5D then, since you can't combo off it, when you can use 2D or 6D? *rages*
Dacidbro Posted February 26, 2010 Author Posted February 26, 2010 5D has like.. 50 frames (wild guess, probably exaggerating) of activity, unlike jD, 2D, and 6D.
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