Toronto BB and GG: FIENDS ONLY Part II

[archling]

CS1 was the best iteration of BB; tho CT was mad fun. I'm sad I wasn't very good at fighting games during CS1 era to fully appreciate it. Regardless, CS1 was the most well done from what I've experienced. Aside from gameplay, CS1 era was the most fun I had.

I still remember one of the hypest moments when Nazir and I took out hermes and pui in grand finals in a getty 2v2 tournament with tsubaki + noel vs. hazama and kune.

lololol.. low tier beats top tier!!! GGGGGG

Master Wu has spoken.

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[LiveWireX]

My personal feeling is that CS1 has been far and away my least favourite version of the game. Man...that was a dark dark time for us. Then CS2 came out and I got super hyped and happy, then CSX came out and it felt much more balanced to me (whether it actually was isn't the point I'm trying to make, mind you), and CP just looks so fresh and awesome. I don't even mind having to re-learn Noel every single time, because I usually get some enjoyment out of it. And I swears I heard something about Marvel being more legit than BB but...I give you guys more credit than THAT.

[DeadliestxXx]

Why we hate everything after: BRIAN

Fuck Science

[kaeru]

CS1 was dumb. I couldn't fight ANYONE without hearing some kind of WHINING about Bang. It was the worst shit ever when everyone talked down wins cause of tier lists. CSX is the best game for me so far, because people stopped shedding tears for tiers. I also love the combos in CSX the most (but i am biased, FRKZ).

[LiveWireX]

CS1 was dumb. I couldn't fight ANYONE without hearing some kind of WHINING about Bang. It was the worst shit ever when everyone talked down wins cause of tier lists. CSX is the best game for me so far, because people stopped shedding tears for tiers. I also love the combos in CSX the most (but i am biased, FRKZ).

I can actually sympathize with you on that one kind of. My only real major complaint about CS2 (aside from all the headaches I got trying to work out that damned Haida Loop) was that a lot of the time when I'd win or whatever, be it on PSN or not, I'd get bitched out about how "you only won because you used cheap ass Noel!" and I'd wind up snapping at them sometimes over how I've "been using her since CT".

[Linear04]

cs1 was the besttt, i think i learned the most combos and characters in that game, remember doing 95% challenges done in that game. after cs1 i started caring less and less about bb and in ex i dont know how to play anyone else other than bang

[archling]

people will bitch about strong chars in every game lolol... is the sign of a weak player.

[mAc Chaos]

I only ever got bitched at about tiers once, and that was by a Nu player right after CT once we started CS1.

:3 :3 :3

[Zeero]

if you want to bitch about top tiers...

cs1 top tiers were top tiers (bang litchi) because they have good damage off any hits that leads into good setups... and to be fair...

bang -> dmg wasn't THAT high off random hits... 3k?

litchi -> normals were not THAT broken, doesn't fast enough to beat some characters for its range

CS2 top tiers were retarded because they have good damage off the most random shit

Noel -> mash D and do 5k

Makoto -> mash anything and do 5K

CSEX top tiers feels "balanced" because their damage isn't so high (except its still high relatively).. except their normals were unbeatable and they are still random as fuck

Hakumen -> anything does 3k, unbeatable normals, jB

Valk -> random as fuck, everything does 3k

Tager -> bullshit

I don't even remember all the top tiers but those were the ones I remember.

As for Carl

CS1 -> Carl sucks, but has jB

CS2 -> Carl sucks, but has unblockables off anything

CSEX -> Carl sucks.

Basically what CP looks to be like is CSEX with gimped combos and RETARDED new characters.

Azrael -> I see no weakness, good normals, good damage

Amane -> drills chip dmg 30% of health in 2 seconds lololol

Bullet -> I don't know what she does, but seems to be fast + decent damage off random hits, what Noel should have been

and

Carl -> sucks, and can't combo off anything without nirvana already there. holy fuck. Buffed normals damage = shorter + easier combos = no hype and no difficulty

If I want to play a game where I can play with my eyes closed when doing combos, I should go play P4A

oh wait, I do my combos with my eyes closed in every BB game. Nevermind. lolololol

[LiveWireX]

Don't you be talking up that "mash D with Noel and get 5k" crap, maaan. Mashing D was and still is so easily punishable that if people couldn't figure out how to avoid or block it, they kinda deserved to lose that 4.5k. And it's funny you say Bullet's what Noel should've been (though Noel appears to very much so be faster and get damage off random hits" because I'm actually thinking of trying her as a secondary when the game comes out.

[kaeru]

I understand your point of view, Zeero. There are 2 things that come to mind, though.

We are BOUND to see hype combos bubble up as the japs play the game in the coming month (remember how every combo got gimped CS1=>CS2 when they removed midscreen wallbounce and added emergency tech on EVERYONE's sweeps?). Personally I love the wall sticks/slides

And... This is the first iteration of a brand new game. I expect it to be dysfunctional, broken, experimental and retarded. If they just rebalanced CSX, id expect nothing short of perfection, but they seem to have gone great lengths to undo their mistakes, and unfortunately that means the game balance is completely reset. It's going to take AT LEAST 2 revisions over this game to make it right.

As for Caruru, he got the greatest buff ever in CP. THAT FUCKING VOICE, OMG !!! I am going to attempt to sub carl in BBCP just for the voice they gave him in this game.

[Roldy]

I thought CS1 Carl was legit?

[X-Sapphire]

Its mahvel baby!

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[magus704]

My personal feeling is that CS1 has been far and away my least favourite version of the game. Man...that was a dark dark time for us. Then CS2 came out and I got super hyped and happy, then CSX came out and it felt much more balanced to me (whether it actually was isn't the point I'm trying to make, mind you), and CP just looks so fresh and awesome. I don't even mind having to re-learn Noel every single time, because I usually get some enjoyment out of it. And I swears I heard something about Marvel being more legit than BB but...I give you guys more credit than THAT.

Marvel is more legit than BB.

[Leo7]

I thought fatal j.B was legit?

ftfy

[LiveWireX]

Marvel is more legit than BB.

UMVC3? And the gauntlet's been thrown down.

[Linear04]

fatal jb the STRONGEST

>"mash D with Noel and get 5k"

at that point it was playing against the character and not the player, no fun at allllllllllllllllllll

even the stupidest mashy players who at least knew combos would do well on netplay lmao. doesnt matter for me tho cus i have dfk THE STRONGEST

do oki super and it hits because theyre mashing d on wakeup lolololol stupid

[Leo7]

Oki meaty 6c x N with Valk.

[kaeru]

hype combo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=01sy2F5sxmc#t=272s

TK SUPAH CRASH YESSSSSSSS

[Zeero]

Noel Rage

I call it D mashing not because it does 4.5k off random Ds, because there is literally no trade off unless you are playing vs tager.

The punishes most people get off (non wakeup) D mashing is 1-2k, and most of these are 50-50 because well, noel's Ds are 50-50... or maybe 30-60 since its 5D 2D and 4D?

Basically I need to punish Noel up to 3 times for mashing D to make it worthwhile for her to stop mashing D while she only needs to hit me twice and i'm dead.

Also, D mashing makes people think they've put a lot of commitment into the game because they can mash D and press buttons in order to do 4.5k combos instead of having any sort of real execution and timing in their combos. Except they can't even complete the 4.5k sequence of buttons to do combos. Yes I am seriously and maturely pointing out to a certain individual on commitment.

[Linear04]

urgh is airdash relaunch staple bnb now :<

[Zeero]

lolololol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JODfdqU204

this game is sure hype

[kaeru]

I don't think so Linear. It really boils down to whether you want seals or not. Also keep in mind the inputs for j.C are now different.

j.C in EXtend = is now inputted as j.2C

j.4C in EXtend = is now inputted as j.C

Also, notice how you can poison the opponent at the end and STILL KEEP KNOCKDOWN?!

And I'd be surprised if the relaunch works one everybody.

Zeero, that combo requires level3 drill which has to be built up, and it's off a j.D starter (an amane fan in montreal pointed that out to us when we viewed that vid)

It's basically not real match material.

But even if it was, the game is DEFINITELY going to be broken until further revisions. It's to be expected.

[Linear04]

the poison nail blue beated tho, i guess its still nice though

what do seals even do?

[LiveWireX]

I call it D mashing not because it does 4.5k off random Ds, because there is literally no trade off unless you are playing vs tager.

The punishes most people get off (non wakeup) D mashing is 1-2k, and most of these are 50-50 because well, noel's Ds are 50-50... or maybe 30-60 since its 5D 2D and 4D?

Basically I need to punish Noel up to 3 times for mashing D to make it worthwhile for her to stop mashing D while she only needs to hit me twice and i'm dead.

Also, D mashing makes people think they've put a lot of commitment into the game because they can mash D and press buttons in order to do 4.5k combos instead of having any sort of real execution and timing in their combos. Except they can't even complete the 4.5k sequence of buttons to do combos. Yes I am seriously and maturely pointing out to a certain individual on commitment.

Man, if you think that's "Noel Rage", you ain't seen me raging, lol. Plus most spammy Noels I saw (which I actually looked down on doing, because it's dumb to try like that), didn't even use 5D. They all wound up spamming j.4D, which I learned pretty early on in the series was a bad idea.