[CS2] Platinum the Trinity Actual Discussion Thread The First

[HiagoX]

Not happening.

[Cirno]

It could! Like, we could stop posting in here for a month. AH3 will probably be out sooner than Platinum. ( ；∀；)ｱﾊﾊ八八ﾉヽﾉヽﾉヽﾉ ＼ / ＼/ ＼

[Urichinan]

I'm dying for her to come out so I CAN WORK ON THE FREAKIN' COMBO THREAD!!

No but seriously, I think the next Bururaji is going to give us a date. It'll be out in a few days...

[unsanctifier]

Valk won't be a problem for her. He doesn't have wtfcrazyloldmg according to what we can speculate from the changes. Also; he isn't good at dealing with zoning from what I know in CS.

[soujiro seta]

Well, since there's no new info on her or footage, I might as well join in the fun

Her potential bad matchups imo

vs Haku

You're gonna have to throw away your typical zoning game. He can easily slice her slow projectiles on reaction. I think missiles will be useless against him. He'll easily counter or slice them. You can still zone him, but only with bombs I think. You'll have to be really close though so that he has to worry about you coming in on him and command grabbing/hitting out of what ever he might try to do to counter the bombs. Melee items will probably be the way to go against him. His godlike pokes and reach vs the range on her melee.

vs Bang

Once het gets in it's going to be autopilot heaven. Having to rely on having her bat to have a reversal against him is godsent for bang. Not only does she have to press D to get the bat, assuming she is able to knock him off her after he gets in, it's not guaranteed that she will get her bat when she presses D. So he can do whatever he wants without fear of retaliation. He can guardpoint her slow zoning though. He doesn't have to teleport either. The good thing is that unlike lambda, because her zoning is slower, she recovers faster. So if he does teleport, she'll probably would have already recovered in time to punish him.

vs Mu

Lol, you can't even press D to get items talk less of trying to zone. Melee all the way. I think Plat is going to have to play RTSD. No stopping for snacks(bombs) and drinks(missiles). Get up in DAT @$$ and wreck it. Plat's mobility might make getting in easier. The problem is you have to watch for steins (lasers and exploding steins), and Mu's godlike normals. Melee items with good range might be the go to option, such as hammer(16t) and cat(lion), so that you can match her normals and make bypassing them a bit easier. Once you have her cornered, bubbles prevent her from jumping away freely, so bubbles + hammer/cat/fan(depending on range) could be a legit anti mu strat.

vs Litchi

Almost the same as hakumen. Her godlike pokes and range is hard to deal with. Plat's zoning though won't be negated as easily. Melee items will probably be favored more as well in this matchup, just like haku. Litchi is also a zoner, and her zoning is faster than plat's. So plat will probably have to play up close than try to outzone her.

vs Ragna

She isn't Mu or lambda. Her zoning is much slower, and she isn't going to be zoning you from full screen either. Since her zoning is slow, and even when she zones it's most likely going to be from midscreen, once he gets within 5B range plat could be in trouble. The good thing though is with the IB nerf we don't have to worry about brainless IB DP anymore, so melee is going to be effective. Why I say this is bad is cause once he gets in, which will be easier for him to do than against Mu/lamda, I don't think plat will have an answer for anything he tosses at her.

Potential good matchups

vs tager

Lol, for obvious reasons. Haha, I hope this is 7-3 so that I can troll tagers with her. Especailly AXIS. Ofcourse I'm just joking.

vs tao

Depending on how tao turns out in CS2, this could be a good or bad/even matchup for plat.

-Good if taos drives don't negate plats bubbles. This lessens taos air mobility greatly and gives plat leway to zone with bomb/missiles. So you could just rinse wipe repeat [bubbles and bombs/missiles]xn to force tao to make a move. Bombs/missiles chip so she's going to have to do something eventually, and all you have to do is react and counter. If she tries to come in she'll have to block plats bubbles, giving plat a freebie to pressure.

-Bad or even if her drives negate plats bubbles. She easily gets by her zoning, so it becomes a melee war. Taos normals and speed might overwhelm plat, or plats melee might give tao trouble. Will have to wait and see.

vs Valk

Same as tao

-Good if wolf can't easily negate her bubbles. He's limited to approaching from the ground like tao, which goes back to the same strat for tao as well.

-Bad if wolf can negate bubbles. His normals are almost on ragna level. Thank goodness his damage and effectiveness has been toned down though in CS2, Valk is really silly right now. Like ragna, once he gets in plat could be defenseless. His normals could be too much for her to handle.

Vs Arakune

Ara has trouble with zoners, the thing here is his air mobility could be drastically limited by plats bubbles. Ara lives in the sky so this could be great news for her. Also, being able to change the trajectory of bombs will give him trouble. He has to come to her, just like in his lambda/mu matchup, and he has to watch out for her melee items and loli upgraded items from loli install as well.

Theory fighter ftl.

Edited December 1, 2010 by soujiro seta

[soujiro seta]

I'm not too sure, I mean, if Plat's zoning can't keep Valk out, she has no real concrete defenses (unless IB>CDT ends up as the new IB>Houtenjin) outside of her Bat to make him go away...

but this is all purely theoretical of course, and therefore pointless (especially considering the balance patch) so meh D:

That's why I put good/bad for valk and tao. How easily they can get in makes a difference, and in the bad for valk I made a reference to his normals cause they are just too good. I don't think she'll have an answer to them either once he gets in. Just like rags and bang, once they get in their normals might overwhelm her unless she has her bat.

It's all theory fighter to pass the time though, so harmless fun nontheless.

[Cirno]

About the whole "if X will negate bubbles"; X active frames seem to take precedence over the bubble's active frames. Ragna popped the bubble with a 5B, so Tao can probably pop it with her drive as well, though I like to keep theory fighter to a minimum. I'll say again, it's still too early to tell with most of these matchups.

[soujiro seta]

About the whole "if X will negate bubbles"; X active frames seem to take precedence over the bubble's active frames. Ragna popped the bubble with a 5B, so Tao can probably pop it with her drive as well, though I like to keep theory fighter to a minimum. I'll say again, it's still too early to tell with most of these matchups.

Oh he did? I forgot all about that. Yeah, you're right. Taos drive will probably pop it as well.

[JammyKuradoberi]

looks around, well I guess my new fave character isn't out yet sigh

[Starlight777]

Try a couple more weeks maybe we'll get lucky. I hope anyway.

[Starlight777]

I saw a Loketest tier list on the loketest thread and Platinum was in D with Rachel and Carl. I screamed when I saw it but then I remembered no one figured her out yet. Also sorry for double post.

[C0R]

I lauged, Iron Tager will never be S tier.

[Urichinan]

That was a troll list posted by Circ, that wasn't real at all.

[HiagoX]

I'd say any move can pop up the bubble.

[C0R]

Any move with a hitbox anyway.

I just imagined Genesic popping the bubble and giggled.

[HiagoX]

Any move with a hitbox anyway.

I just imagined Genesic popping the bubble and giggled.

Well duh.

Of course. Tager will grab the bubble and you know what comes next.

Gdlk shit.

[C0R]

For some people, clarification is required!

Genesic Rubby Ducky and me.

[Urichinan]

http://www.arcadiamagazine.com/pub/pictures/128BBCS2.jpg

Sadly there isn't a larger view. Ç.Ç;

The only way to see the full size would be for someone to buy that issue of Arcadia and scan it.

SO MUCH LOST INFO!!!!!!!!! Probably a release date too. >.>

EDIT: I think palette #7 is a Flonne cameo.

Edited December 2, 2010 by Urichinan

[Starlight777]

If it is a Flonne palette IT'S MINE!!!!! Also I do believe I see Swallow Moon and some Install items in the upper right corner.

EDIT: Anyone notice lack of Nanoha palette?

Edited December 2, 2010 by Starlight777

[Chaoschao222]

Perhaps it's only one page? I mean, it sure looks like her all-gold pallet is there, but that's a DLC-color, so maybe that's an odd arrangement of half of them?

Also, either the third from the top left or second from the bottom left is MINE!

[HiagoX]

For some people, clarification is required!

Genesic Rubby Ducky and me.

You might be godlike.

[C0R]

I mean, it sure looks like her all-gold pallet is there, but that's a DLC-color

I don't think that's the all-gold palette. I think that's just palette page one.

Fixed

[Urichinan]

Perhaps it's only one page? I mean, it sure looks like her all-gold pallet is there, but that's a DLC-color, so maybe that's an odd arrangement of half of them?

Also, either the third from the top left or second from the bottom left is MINE!

No, that's her basic 12. The gold palette you see has a white shirt and a red bell, also you see her default as the first and her zombie and heavily shaded palettes at the bottom right.

So no, it's her normal colors.

[Starlight777]

Perhaps it's only one page? I mean, it sure looks like her all-gold pallet is there, but that's a DLC-color, so maybe that's an odd arrangement of half of them?

Also, either the third from the top left or second from the bottom left is MINE!

It's Cure Sunshine from the Platinum vs. Bang vid

[HiagoX]

I don't think that's the all-gold palette. I think that's just palette page one.

It's not, I've checked it.

Fixed

Overkill.