Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Consistently posting misinformation in the gameplay threads should result in an infraction yo.
dragontamer Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) What no that's an entirely different thing. Look what I'm saying is, if we start rewarding people for doing things they're supposed to do on a gameplay forum ( contributing information/combos, asking intelligent questions, throwing out new gimmicks/tips ) dustloop is going to go from a ghetto ass high school to a nursery with gold sticker perks that you can show to your mom and she'll treat you to a Kid's Meal Positive reinforcement is used everywhere. From the military (military badges, congressional medals of honor), to sports (trophies, Player of the Year), to companies. The difference between "Nursery with gold stickers" and "Congressional Medal of Honor" is the right implementation of the positive reinforcement system. After all, you don't get any money from a Congressional Medal of Honor either. And everyone should be striving to go "above and beyond the call of duty". If the badges are given out like candy or gold stickers in a nursery, then of course it doesn't work. But if the moderation team strives to create a meaning behind the badge, then it will hold some power. Edited October 28, 2010 by dragontamer
Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Congressional Medal of Honor better be you walking down the street and a nigga going " yo damn, he's the baddest bitch ". I'm just not a fan of rewarding people for what they're supposed to do. I remember back in the day where if you were throwing around misinformation it'd get you bodied in ST by like 15 guys in a row. spoilers: they'd use E.Honda and you had to use a non-projectile/dp character, it was ovaaaaaaaaaa
farranpoison Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 There's a degree of psychology here that dragontamer seems to get but no one else does... Well, it doesn't matter. The question asked here was "how the fuck do we make DL a better place?" And giving rewards for good behavior seems a like a pretty good idea to me. After all, banning people and flaming hasn't been working from what I've seen. Ban some people, more idiots come, who then stay idiots and get banned. And the cycle repeats itself.
Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 How about instead of banning them we introduce them to SFIV and then they're SRK's problem?
Heroic_Legacy Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Then blazblue gets an even worse name in the community and we'll never be at a major again.
C0R Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 If I have to dig through the subforums and be all "I suck, here's what I do, here's where I fail." I expect to take a verbal whipping, loaded with good advice. I could care less about how they go about it, as long as the information's golden. As long as the information is golden. That's where I think badges could lend a hand. That guy won a regional, he has an idea of what's up. THAT guy won SBR, he KNOWS what's up, moreover, he's got a fat stamp of "I Know What the Fuck I'm Doing".
Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Only if they're for winning majors/regionals I guess. That's legit, as opposed to a badge for " found a new 2.1k combo with Ragna " or " Used Ragna's 2C as an anti-air "
C0R Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I've been under the impression that the whole badge discussion has really been for the... higher tier contributors, no kiddie stuff.
Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I'd prefer if they were for winning tournaments and shit ( despite y'know, if you're coming into this game you should really know who's raw as fuck ) idk, maybe if someone finds a new loop that they didn't see in a nicox2 video and try to rename it and take credit for it not that that's happened, but I'm calling it
farranpoison Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I've been under the impression that the whole badge discussion has really been for the... higher tier contributors, no kiddie stuff. Pretty much this. It's been said for a while now before, yet people still think that there's some kind of rep meter involved. Pro tip: THERE'S NONE OF THAT.
Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 yo you keep posting that way farran and I'm going to hit "-" on your rep bar nigga. see how balling you are when nobody wants to play casuals with you and your -13506 rep, nigga describe high-tier contributions in your opinion, yo.
C0R Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) winning tournaments and shit = no kiddie stuff Anyway, I don't think DL would get even so much as a nosebleed over "Teh Pro" badges. Every argument for elitism is pretty much squished by. Yes. They are better than you, and they have proved it. Learn and conquer. Big Contributions = Be a player knowledgeable and powerful enough that you don't need a badge. That's when you deserve one. Edited October 28, 2010 by C0R
Heroic_Legacy Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Yes but every argument for elitism that has to be squished will end up like this thread.
farranpoison Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 yo you keep posting that way farran and I'm going to hit "-" on your rep bar nigga. see how balling you are when nobody wants to play casuals with you and your -13506 rep, nigga describe high-tier contributions in your opinion, yo. You. Me. POKEMONS NIGGA Anyway, the better players will pretty much have the most say in this kind of system; wasn't this what you people wanted in the first place?
Black Onslaught Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 As long as higher-level players don't say your mom is free it should be all good
C0R Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) I'm actually going to go find Zidane's post here... This forum would be 1,000,000x better if it was just 50 goddamn guys knowing what the fuck they were talking about it. So it's what, two, maybe three S-Members for every character and some framedata gods. Sounds good to me. I'm not seeing a contradiction in these opinions. Edited October 28, 2010 by C0R
C0R Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) It's not like people with badges have nothing to learn from the new guy. In fact if they have one, it's probably because they're the best at learning, thus have huge amounts of accumulated knowledge. I'm not saying only badge'd user's opinions matter, not at all, people should just know what's up and when advice is actually GOOD advice. Edited October 28, 2010 by C0R
shtkn Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 i think Dustloop's biggest problem (and i guess any forum of sufficient size) is that new members 1. don't know where to look for info 2. don't know who to trust i assumed ppl would be smart enough to read teh dammned sitckied threads and the beginner subforum, but I don't have any statistics for how many new ppl were educated by these threads and how many ignored them and just started being idiots. would a merit system help with this? in theory it'd help with problem #2, but i don't know. i've been looking at vbulletin mods, and 'medal system' mods do exist, and i think they can be split between categories (so there coudl be one for 'storyline', 'gameplay', 'community organizing', etc). as for zidane's suggestion of mods clamping down on idiots, i support the idea; the problem is that if this is all we do, then the number of ppl who stick around and put in effort to be good will go down. Some might consider this a good thing. I believe the correct term for this type of community behavior called is 'hazing' and 'trial by fire'. Granted, we're a competitive community so that might be what we actually need.
C0R Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 If that's the real problem, then I can't see why a merit system wouldn't at the very least strangle it, if not kill it.
A.X.I.S. Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 can we do the previously proposed idea of moving BB video discusion and posting threads to gameplay and nuking BBG?
farranpoison Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 can we do the previously proposed idea of moving BB video discusion and posting threads to gameplay and nuking BBG? Also, in place of BBG, put in OHC forums. Give Circ something else to mod.
killionaire Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) I'll have to agree that any recognition should not be used as a reward but as an indicator of someone who knows what they're talking about. That way, there really is no incentive to get recognized. It's just what happens to people who are qualified. Like shtkn said, it's a good priority to actually figure out who to trust. One more thing we need to think about is the selectivity of this system. We want to give them to people who have fairly controllable personalities. I don't want shit getting fueled because someone "pulled rank" on someone else.. Unless, of course, that someone else was an idiot and the majority is agreeing with the contributor. Edited October 28, 2010 by killionaire
Zidane Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 as for zidane's suggestion of mods clamping down on idiots, i support the idea; the problem is that if this is all we do, then the number of ppl who stick around and put in effort to be good will go down. Some might consider this a good thing. I believe the correct term for this type of community behavior called is 'hazing' and 'trial by fire'. Granted, we're a competitive community so that might be what we actually need. Man I don't support hazing. I'm not trying to make new people's lives hell. Again, I have NO PROBLEM with new people. Everyone needs to start somewhere. I have a problem with people like the guy I quoted like 10 pages ago. He's a mix between someone new and a scrub. He's obviously new but at the same time, "i only play this char cause of cool combo game is ruined fuck bb". There's shit wrong with that. So if you're new, I don't have a problem. But if you're new AND stupid... well then.
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